Well it doesn't seem like we're going to get any other wagons going today which is alright I suppose. I still want button looked at hard though. And as far as UTR goes Jumanji definitely could use some heat.

As far as Card is concerned it is I think better to have him around than modkilled but given what the mod said about killing and not subbing earlier I think this gives major wolf points to Card. Especially since he is replacing someone who gave off alot of wolf smell. I still think there are other better ways to go in the near future but can't forget about this.

cliff notes: yosa gonna die

For the people that disagree about mburke05 being seer cleared please go over chaser's d2 posts and show me any other likely peek.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, I'm pointing out possibilities. Although for the record,

I do think cardassian is ethical enough to be telling the truth here.

I know. I'm not freaking out because I'm pre-emptively trying to discredit you for pointing a finger at me or anything, I'm freaking out per se because A.E was already super wolfy. A.E living didn't really make a difference to us because he sucked, but you'd probably be a pretty good wolf in his spot so I think it's imperative to lynch you quickly.

Also, since I'm expecting to get NKed soon I should prob get it out there that I think there's a very, very high chance RiverFenix is a wolf. He's been playing a pretty similar wolf game to what he did in the SSNL game, I think the way he accused me of SK earlier today while simultaneously saying "you're obv villa" is a classic method of his to make himself look more villa (by saying someone else who is villa is ok in his book) while also casting doubt on them.

If he does turn out to be a wolf, I remember there were some people who had him on early villa lists that might be worth looking into (don't remember who those people were atm). Take it with a grain of salt obv since there's so little information d1/d2 but it could easily be wolves trying to provide early cover for each other.

Other thoughts atm:
- Ainex: I still think his d1 was fishy, refer to one of my earlier summary posts to see why, and I think he's posted a little better today but his overall performance is still a little suspicious and I think it takes more than one day of good posting to clear that - all in all, not a strong read though
- Brian: No idea what to think tbh, he's all over the place
- Ilya: ridic UTR, if he doesn't get modkilled tonight then it's probably because he's a wolf
- mdom: really don't like how UTR he's become after the first couple days, I pointed out one or two suspicious-ish things about his early play in my summaries as well
- mburke: still leaning on him being a wolf for reasons presented before, especially if cardv2.0 turns up wolf
- stark: villa4life
- WER: I actually like jobeen's logic for him possibly being the SK (although that doesn't clear jobeen of anything, wolves want to get the SK too)

unvote buttons
vote corsakh

Oh, and
- JD: While I have no idea what his role is, I think the way people are posting about him will give a lotttt of information about those people when JD's role is eventually discovered

Vote Cors

Ok, ok. Stop it. Enough. This is a total cluster****.

I AM SEER

Night One: I played with mdom in two games. He single handedly changed a lot in one of the games and was next to impossible to read imo. I planned on having him as my first pick. So I immediately proceed to defending him and make a lot of noise about it on two grounds - if he comes clean, I can ligitimately defend him in the future. If he comes sour, I can get his packs trust and they will keep me around for a while as a village idiot that they can manipulate and instil havon in the village.

Mdom comes villa.

Night Two: Orignially, I had plans to pick another guy I played with in previous games. But then Card catches my attention with some of the stuff he says and the amoung he posts. I even point it out to him here:

Anyway, I was a bit in a rush later that day and did not have much time to think about all that, so I submitted him. Now I see he was just setting off fake bombs to protect the seers, but it did not look that clear to me at that time. Sorry about that, anyway.

Card comes villa obv.

Night three: I was still afk for most of the day, and those "Cadeus seerhunt" accusations certainly did not help. When mbruke openly called me a seer, I was in total wtf mode. Still, I managed to find some time at the end of the day and went through most of experienced player's posts who I thought had a good chance to make it to the end game. AT the end, I was basically flipping between AE and Bitchie back and forth, and decided to go with AE based on how his Jaky action and some of the games that I skimmed he played.

A.Ertbjerg/Cardassian comes a pup.

My picks for card and mdom can be found here:

Note how ten minutes after posting that I add the following:

My pick AE/Card is here:

I use the word "trust" identify the picks.

FAQ section,
since we don't have time for a conference.

- You type so fast.
- This is obviously a pretyped post that I prepared several hours ago in case my case looked gloom.

- Where is your d2 pick?
- I did not leave any on purpose. For one, this game is filled with people that I played with previously and I have a certain reputation with them. Both pups and the SK will want to keep me around for as long as possible, I thought my chances of dying on that night were next to 0. Second, I wanted to keep my tracks closed in case they suspect me later in the game. I think leaving no pick on the first day after receiving a pick certainly helps this.

- What was gonna happen if thye DID NK you then?
- I don't know. Village would be ****ed I suppose. But village is always ****ed in a game this big when their seer gets killed on the second night anyway I suppose. Plus I really thought I won't get NK'ed.

- Why is AE pick so late in the day?
- He was afk for the entire day and it was really hard to drop a bomb without attracting attention. Remember, if pups notice it during the game, they don't even have to NK at night, they can just put an extra vote for me today.

- Why you started with mdom when there were more experienced players around to pick from?
- Like I said, I was choosing my first pick based on the general threat the guy poses and his redability. I know some of these guys are experienced, but I don't know hexactly how dangerous they can be, or if they go on tilt, or someone has good reads on them. With mdom I was fairly sure I would have to pick him at some point. Plus if you pick an obv experienced player the first night, there is a good chance they are getting NK'ed anyway.

- WTH was Chaser doing?
- I want to know the same thing. Seer covering is my best guess. Nothing unsual for people to put me high on their wolf radar immediately, but I could do nothing about it since so many people are already familiar with my style. So proably figured I am just a possum in the worst case scenario. Thank you very much sir.

And since I am getting NK'ed tonight, might as well give some last pointers.

Don't panic. We can still turn it around. Thre will be now three pups dead. I think Caedus is 100% right. You have to find the SK first. It will become harder and harder for the village to win the game while SK is till alive because there will be more and more frustration and havoc with three people dieing every day. Just do your best and trust instincts. There are still some very strong and experienced players left in the game, and even if only some of them are still on our side, we have hope.

Oh, and this game is so rigged for SK, its absolutely sick.

GL village!

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Cliffs:

SEER!!!

n1 - mdom villa
n2 - card villa
n3 - AE/card pup

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Unvote NOW, its almost a maj.

1. lol, this will be a fun 30 minutes
2. OTI already said today won't be a maj

Fail im a girl

oh and i did go back and try to prove it if you read my post again i said i thought this was the case

im open to the possiblity that im wrong i was just trying to see if i could find any peeks in chasers posts.

Day end at 9:30

Fair enough point about A.E.

However I am a terrible wolf (look at the no name game where i was one to see).

Also if I did come back as a wolf the only way I could play it is to continue playing the same way as before because anything else would look highly suspect.
therefore I'd have to plan being right a lot of the time.

I do think it's important not to let me get to end game.
the village just can't take that risk.

However I think whatever my role is now I will be of use to the village for a few days yet.

Initial reaction: A.E is such a terribad, terribad seer pick that I don't know if I can believe you

Cors is a wolf!

I can promise you that now as I know I am villa.

I know you all can't trust me on that but honestly take one leap of faith here and lynch me tomorrow if cors is vill.

I promise you won't be disappointed.

dont we have to unvote now to make the wolfs waste a NK

You're right A.E. would be a terrible peek.

I hear ya sista.

off the top of my head I think buttons was our 2nd closest wagon/wolf suspect so unvote, vote buttons.

It's not that bad honestly, if he is a seer the wolves are gonna kill him no doubt tonight, so if he's still alive tomorrow it's a turbolynch.

If you search for him in PoG and look through his games, you will think differently. Strong quite players have a very good chance of making it to the end game.

Yeah you probably do.

I'm not going to cause I know he's lying.

i agree just not with my vote

im going to vote card

where is brian when we need good advice?

and A.E. is a strong player is he?

Goofy I thought eod was gonna be at 9, ill respond to you tomorrow hopefully as this thread is about to blow up I think. Cliffnotes are gonna be youre wrong.