i agree with you and i also think you are back to your normal villa ways maybe you were just off yesterday

ill go with nightwood for now

I don't understand how giving him some time frame like that is going to make him more likely to spew. He's not stupid. I don't think if he's a wolf he's going to go "OH **** I HAVE TO RESPOND OR ELSE THEY WILL KILL ME!"

just going with gtpitch is prob a lol bad idea

You haven't played much WW have you?

im not just going along i have been on night since day one i agree with what he is saying

By the looks of things you haven't learned a whole lot from all the games you've played anyway. LOL at there being some sort of hard and fast correct way to play this game...

Huh? He didn't demand it. He was giving time for him to come in and clear himself. D1 I don't really think this is unreasonable.

The second part... well I shouldn't have to explain that if you have played WW more than 0 times.

I will say based upon how you are defending yourself (even if I disagree with the crap you are saying) it looks pretty unlikely you are a wolf, so unvote for now.

Anyways, I'm not going to argue WW semantics. I need to focus on finding wolves.

gtpitch: your assessment makes sense, but I'm not sure it points to stark being a wolf. I'm still leaning villa on stark here.

I think it's far more damning of nightwood who just latches on (and nightwood having played with me often should probably know better).

Yea you basically just repeated what I said.

To summarize:

Stark = more than likely a clueless villa who thought that post was a smoking gun

night = the newb wolf who latched on and went for it.

They don't have to be w\w here and actually its likely they are v\w. Night is the more likely wolf here. Haven't had a chance to quote the rest of his posts but I'm working on it.

I have been a wolf before

so i think we need to look mostly at the failed wagons from yesterday, and why they didnt pick up steam.

gtpitch, jumangi, night...

from the talk, i think jumangi is up in the air for me, but with gtpitch, i am thinking gtpitch and night are w/v for sure, and im actually leaning more toward gtpitch being the wolf. i know i voted him yesterday, because of gut feel, but he hasnt really shown me anything otherwise, and after his wagon picked up no steam, and he helped with the WU wagon, im still feeling him wolfy

aww the wolf was come in just in time to try ot de-rail the nightwood wagon

good try

try again

yeah, i dont care if the night wagon succeeds, it will give us important information either way.

like i said, i think the failed d1 wagons are the place to go, and im fine with just getting wagons on all three and see where it goes

I don't like this post. A lot of the D1 wagons are turning out to be heavy-villa lean people like beer. You are pushing for those wagons to start up again.

gtpitch could still certainly be a wolf, but im inclined to lean villa for now. however, if nightwood turns up villa, of course that will change things.

i think pushing a nightwood wagon is good for sure, but beer or gtpitch is a mistake at this point. Things could change throughout the day, though.

im going to the gym, im gonna go gtpitch for now, because i have a sick read ldo

vote gtpitch

i dont mean beer, i like his as villa, the third one is jumangi,

when i say failed wagons, i dont mean beer because his wagon actually picked up steam, the other three didnt

Just an FYI:

When 2 people vote and no one else does its not really a wagon. Beer was the failed wagon.

But what you're not getting for some reason is that 99% of D1 wagons are full of all villagers.

VOTE COUNT AS OF POST 718

[0] A.Ertbjerg
[0] Ainex
[0] BingoBango
[0] BitchiBee
[1] Brian voted for karak567
[0] Caedus(Hardball47)
[0] cardassian voted for karak567
[0] chaser1942
[0] corsakh
[0] djstu
[0] goofyballer voted for mburke05
[1] gtpitch voted for nightwood
[1] I_Like_Beer
[0] IlyaMuromec
[0] Jack Frost voted for nightwood
[0] jobeen voted for jumanjiboard
[1] JumanjiBoard
[3] Karak567
[1] Malgin
[1] mburke05
[0] mdom88 voted for brian
[0] Mrsbutton voted for nightwood
[3] nightwood voted for karak567
[0] O0Brian0O voted for gtpitch
[0] RiverFenix
[0] J.D.(saymond) voted for i_like_beer
[0] Slink voted for malgin
[0] starkwired
[0] WinEvryRacex

NEW CO-MOD NOTE

DO NOT BOLD ANYTHING THAT IS NOT A VOTE. FAILURE TO FOLLOW THIS DIRECTIVE WILL RESULT IN BAD THINGS HAPPENING TO THE OFFENDING PARTY.

how am i one of the leading wagons? read my recent posts and find a better wagon guys.

Yeah the more you post the more I think you're a wolf. I won't be changing my vote. You set yourself up so that you can waffle in the future so much:

"for now" is the classic wolf tell, and you're exhibiting it.

Yeah you just ooze wolf man. I won't be changing my vote.

NIGHTWOOD

I told him I'd start the wagon on him today since yesterday it didn't get very far. He's been active enough to give us plenty of information in the chance (small imo) that he is a villa.

I think info on Nightwood at EOD will also help us on Corsakh, Brian and Jobeen.

Corsakh keeps changing his vote and either is clueless or is trying to cause confusion on wagons.

Nightwood defended Brian and Jobeen against people that started wagons against them on d1.

Just some thoughts.

um

isnt this EXACTLY what im getting at? look, its my second game, but the way i see it, on d1, there are lots of ( seven ) wolves. so when people start voting, its pretty easy for the wolves to jump on and vote for people who get a few votes, ergo, villas get lynched d1, im not agruing that.

what im saying is that, the people who get 2 or 3 votes d1 are interesting, because no one jumped on them, making it more likely they were wolves?

is this not good reasoning?

In the SSNL game, he got lucky, whatever. BUT, for him to start voting me on d1 in this game when he can't have a single possible reason for doing so (unless he has a sick read that me not being available before 4pm = OBVIOUS WOLF BEHAVIOR) is quite wolfy, imo.

He's wearing ****ing blinders. He'll be zero help in finding actual wolves, just like he was zero help in posting about anybody not named goofyballer in the other game until I was lynched. The difference is that in this game, if he continues down that line, all he'll succeed in doing is mislynching a villager.

So, let's ask ourselves: why would he vote me on d1 when he couldn't possibly have a reason for doing so yet? Like I said before, I think there are two possibilities:
1. He's a wolf who thinks that he can inconspicuously try to start a wagon on me without taking responsibility for getting a villager mislynched because if it happened, he could be like "oh, oops, I was just kinda being silly because I voted for goofy every day last game and I thought it would be funny to do it this time...my bad guys." I did the same thing as a wolf in the last game to mdom (on d1 I was like "lol I pegged mdom as a wolf in the signup threads and I gotta stick with my reads"), he got lynched, and I mostly absolved myself of responsibility for a week or so. OR...
2. He's going to the do the same **** he did last game and vote for me every single day with no reasoning, and be completely unhelpful for the village. The fact that I was a wolf last game is insanely results-oriented and as poker players you should be able to look past that - like cardassian said, he had absolutely no logic for voting me for like the first 3 days he did so, and he had absolutely no logic for voting for me on d1 in this game.