I just realized Night at the Museum was set at AMNH and there is a mammoth there for sure

Regardless, any museum of natural history will by definition have mammoths as the extinct animals next to Dinos and saber tooth tigers

I would guess NY before I guessed Antarctica. You can't give an unlimited and expect us to randomly pick a word on the board that hasn't been clued for yet. You just can't.

I don't disagree that a natural history museum should hit mammoth.

My question is why unlimited here and not take a shot at a two. And the best explanation I can come up with is that IBD ****ed up and zeroed something he shouldn't have.

slip

Slip

Basically we have two possible stories, right?

1) IBD was worried we would hit the purple word and gave us a zero clue that unintentionally connected very hard on a red word. He gave us an unlimited clue to try to get us to go back to that zero clue and say one of those.

2) The zero clue remains accurate. Europe was the 4th booming word. This unlimited clue is for slip and another word that we had never discussed before.

Am I misrepresenting anything?

No, that pretty much covers it. And option 2 is much worse than option 1 imo.

Has anybody used an unlimited clue to hit an unclued word literally ever? Seems terrible.

I guess it's possible that:

3) The zero clue was accurate. The last booming word was the only other one mentioned - snow. IBD didn't think of the snow/fall connection and only wants us to say slip and then go back to snow.

I'm not a fan of this because I think we'd get "fall - 1" rather than "fall - unlimited". Plus I don't think Filthy would completely punt it back to us in this case.

But I don't think the chances of this are zero, so I thought I'd bring it up.

I don't think I can be talked out of mammoth here. As much as I hate guessing it, I hate everything else more. All the other options require ibd using an unlimited clue in a way that has never been done before.

I think we can at least all agree that the booming clue was...not optimal.

No matter what he used unlimited in a way we don’t usually use it bc we usually use it for a word on your list and we had no list at this point

The rules say to use it for stretchy connections but i dunno what that means for the guess

Snow would just be fall - 2

It seems like the only words we can’t connect slip to are Antarctica and Robin

Robin has the benefit that we had it as “maybe” round one so it was technically considered but not eliminated

Antarctica has the benefit that snow blocks things like ice which connect slip and Antarctica

(I’d argue if he goes ice we go slip + Antarctica bc Antarctica + snow = cold and snow+slip is slush or fall and Antarctica just hits ice harder than snow)


I think I’m back on Robin (not bc it’s booming but bc we had it has maybe and it can’t be connected to slip)

Robin>Antarctica>>snow>>>>&gt ;>>>mammoth>the rest>Dino>>>>>>>>>&g t;>ny

Cape = slip+robin

You can connect anything if you try hard enough. I just can't believe he would use an unlimited clue and expect us to just pick a random word from the board. It would be a huge punt.

Robin was never a maybe...that post was just you riffing.

I'm shocked we got an unlimited clue at all, but picking a word that was never on our radar at all would be totally out of left field.

The 100 post turns is why I play here

This is beautiful

Assuming that I haven't misrepresented anything, I don't think I can get off mammoth either.

Option 2 requires two things that make no sense at all to me (Europe as booming and an unlimited clue that wants us to pick a word that we never talked about before).

Option 1 simply requires IBD having a brain fart and giving a zero clue that hits one of our words.

This post aged well.

ok it's 2-1

I maintain if you accidentally clue off a word then you should find a way to clue back onto it, but it's a shot in the dark anyway and I am not going to be able to argue for a different word that will convince you


mammoth

Of course it’s Mammoth, haha.

I don’t think booming was that bad, I just overreacted, which is a leak in my 0 game.

I was deciding between booming and thunderous and knew both Dinosaur and Force would be guessed for either, but I thought booming was slightly better overall. I was wrong obv, because it hit New York harder than I’d expected for you guys, throwing a wrench in my plan.

 It was exactly this.

I was probably being too cautious, but I felt like giving away a blue was as good as hitting purple on this board. I was worried about only clueing you off of NY because Mammoth was basically last on your list and I had no plans to clue it again. I had a hard time thinking of a NY/Dinosaur only clue, and knew AMNH would also hit Mammoth, but I was hoping this post from eb (the team’s last post before my 0 clue) would sit heavier than it did:

Mammoth was such an afterthought the whole time that part of me hoped you’d just overlook it when I clued AMNH (though I knew that was unlikely). Generally, I’m clueing 0 when something is a favorite and shouldn’t be.

I landed on AMNH because it’s in NYC and has a huge T-Rex in the lobby (which is also a main character in Night At The Museum).

I was also hoping this would be a more popular idea:

I would never, ever clue unlimited with two words left in the hopes of my team hitting a word that had literally never been mentioned. This was and will always be one of exactly New York, Dinosaur, Mammoth, or Snow.

I agree with this, and I tried. Every connection I could think of between Slip and Mammoth had a blocker (wool hit Glove, tongue hit Robin, crevasse and glacier hit Antarctica, Ice hit Snow/Antarctica, etc.), so I decided our best chance was to go back to the beginning and try something I’d never tried before.

I won’t say much more about the “x + y = z” posts other than to say I’d bet serve to derail deliberations more often than get them on track. Just because you can think of it, that doesn’t mean that the spymaster would have too.

But I’m glad you guys got there, and appreciate you giving me enough credit that I’m not just going to ask you to blindly guess a random word for the win.

Maybe this was play bad, get there. But hey, we got there.

These are co-posts of the game, haha

Turkey
Lemon
Europe
Racket
Bolt
Sound
Mammoth
Slip
Table
Cricket
Rabbit
Grace
Ham
Code
File
New york
Antarctica
Robin
Beach
Wave
Snow
Glove
Force
Dinosaur
Pool

Thank you u3 for carrying me to the win


“I would never, ever clue unlimited with two words left in the hopes of my team hitting a word that had literally never been mentioned. This was and will always be one of exactly New York, Dinosaur, Mammoth, or Snow.”


This makes sense…unlimited is too powerful for the other uses to use it for “tenuous connection”…and looking at rules now I see they actually don’t mention that use, so must have been just how the people IRL played it when I first learned it.



I hate how much mammoth hits AMNH but it is true that we have to be able to adjust and so later clues should get more weight than earlier ones and with snow hitting fall pretty well it makes sense to eliminate that which leaves the other 3 and mammoth is the weakest of those 3 to eliminate