Booming was Europe

Robin is just process of elimination bc can’t do 2 clue and I did mention it as a maybe so only option left from our list

I don’t hate mammoth as the reason he did unlimited tho; I feel dirty guessing mammoth after he clued us off of a museum that displays mammoths tho

Dino is assassin and why he did booming not boom perhaps, as they were eliminated by a huge boom

So maybe he overshot it going AMNH

I still think Godzilla is better as it’s a Dino going to New York and we would reason he didn’t do museum - 0 because he didn’t want us to eliminate mammoth also…I know Godzilla is a giant (mammoth) Dino so that’s why it clues off mammoth but AMNH is a mammoth exhibit so it should also clue off mammoth

Clue Giuliani to get NY Dino and not mammoth

The more I think about it, the more I'm on Team Mammoth also.

It explains the unlimited clue, rather than zero or one. It also explains why Filthy would be so confident to give a 1 clue last round, knowing that we had just ruled out our last red word.

One of Dino or NY was the purple word (and the other probably blue) and IBD was just trying to get them both at once. Mammoth was collateral damage.

Plus a slip/mammoth combo is really hard.

The story makes sense to me.

Yep, team mammoth. Robin makes no sense imo and I think nich's clues are at least as bad or worse to gid rid of the desired words.

Booming is such a terrible clue for Europe that I have to believe it can't be that and we still need one. Mammoth is really the only thing that works.

If robin was ours he would have to give a 2 clue here, regardless of how weak it is.

Alright it’s 2-1 and I don’t have a much better plan

I can’t vote to guess a word that we were hard clued off of and never clued for…I’d prefer any word but ny/Dino/mammoth based on that but I don’t know that I see a word that will convince y’all

There aren’t many clues that hit mammoth harder than the American museum of natural history

Also why not 5 for smorgasbord if mammoth is ours given that word means a large (mammoth) buffet?

It would have been a way to course correct

If it’s mammoth I think he has to do a 2 clue here bc we explicitly said we eliminated mammoth

Muumuu - 2 for slip/mammoth or something similar

My best guess is the final word is Antarctica or snow and they block each other so he did unlimited for iffy connection because 2 clue words could hit the others

Ice - 2 do we go Antarctica or snow?

Maybe slush - 2 gets snow and slip?


Snow fall is the best hit for fall

I see what you're saying. I'm not saying I can't be convinced off mammoth, but I would need an answer to these questions:

* What is the fourth booming word?

* If you mistakenly zeroed something, how would you go about bringing it back in the conversation?

* Why would Filthy not even try to win last round, knowing that we had only two words left?

* Why say "unlimited" rather than try a clue for 2?

I guess you think this is Europe?

Why? Because of the Russian invasion of Ukraine?

This seems incredibly weak.

fourth booming: Europe for same logic as New York PLUS the current bombing going on
how I'd bring it back: I'd do a 2 clue like muumuu or something else here
filthy: most likely he didn't have a 3 clue for his last 3 and didn't want to eliminate more words, so 1 clue better than 3 clue where they may get one of ours or may get 2 of theirs and eliminate a blocker for us
unlimited: the standard here is a 2 clue, yes; unlimited usually means "correct list" or near the end it means "second on your list" since n-1 is "first on list"...but it can also mean the normal definition from the rules of "stretchy connection"

what unlimited doesn't mean is "go back to a word that I hard clued you off of and never clued you back for"

do you agree that given he hard clued us off mammoth with AMNH, he should have done smorgasbord - 5 to at least try to clue back for mammoth? him doing 4 there knowing we were clued off and we had slip+mammoth left and he didn't have a 2 clue for those makes it less likely mammoth is ours

No, unless there's a smorgasbord/mammoth connection that I don't see.

smorgasbord is like a big spread of food

nothing else hits it so going 5 clues us back to big (mammoth)

Very strongly disagree that IBD would do smorgasbord - 5 for an accidental nuking of a word.

Even more strongly disagree that it would be a good idea if he had done it.

I'm really don't like mammoth at all, but I like everything else less.

well I don't think he clues AMNH if mammoth is ours because it wouldn't be an accidental nuking of a word; it would be obvious to him that we eliminate mammoth from AMNH

at some point we have to trust spymaster and he clued us off mammoth HAAARRRDDD and then never clued us back onto it

in my mind we should trust his 0 clue and guess anything but ny/dino/mammoth even if we don't love any words


also, 'falls' hits slip as well so why not falls - 2 for Mammoth Falls and slip?


mammoth just makes no sense

Have you ever been to this place? I haven't.

How hard does it hit mammoth?

I haven’t been but I’m pretty sure mammoth is right in the lobby (unless that’s another NH museum I’m thinking of)

Every NH museum I’ve ever been to had mammoths

Clearly mistakes were made, but if booming was intended for Europe, then it is a 1st ballot Hall of Shame level clue. He would have to both expect us to use a meaning that only vaguely hits Europe anyway AND fade New York, which is a much harder hit for that meaning. I would like to give IBD at least a little bit of credit.

As for the unlimited - just a couple of games ago you made a long post about what that should mean in this situation, which was to use a word from your list but not the next guess. The only words we even discussed at any point that haven't been guessed yet are ny/dino/mammoth, so it should really be one of those words.

The only other word I would even consider guessing here is snow because I did mention it a couple of turns ago. But I don't wanna guess it because fall 2 would've slip/snow perfectly, and in all my years of playing codenames I have never once seen a spymaster use unlimited to mean a stretchier link to the clue.

I think the most likely scenario is that ibd dug himself into a hole that he couldn't get out of, could not come up with a good clue to hit slip and mammoth, and this is a last ditch effort to course correct.

Y’all may outvote me but I’ll never vote for mammoth and I hope you wouldn’t guess it if I were spymaster in this situation

So here are the other options I would vote for:

Antarctica

Beach - it can be booming but boat is pretty obvious for slip and beach so I don’t like this

Glove - clothes for glove and slip seems obvious

Pool - slide seems obvious

Robin - doesn’t seem great

Snow - hits fall better than any word on list




1 of Antarctica/snow is my current suspicion…snowfall would make fall - 2 the clue so I guess I like Antarctica since he did unlimited not 2…but maybe he felt snow fall was a stretch or maybe he was worried we’d think fall the season and say can’t be snow and not see snow fall?



Coulda done ice-2 for Antarctica but what if we did snow and lose?

I don’t love it tho, but like any of above better than the 3 he explicitly clued off

And yeah, even if I knew what AMNH meant, I wouldn't have known if mammoth was definitively out. So is it possible that either ibd didn't know there were mammoths there, or he just wouldn't expect us to know?

Why not falls - 2 for mammoth falls and slip?

I just don’t see him going AMNH if mammoth is ours

We discussed mammoth and then he clued off of it; that’s standard 0 clue behavior

Wtf is Mammoth Falls?