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01-25-2020 , 05:23 PM
Proud of myself for solving this one:

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01-25-2020 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
Proud of myself for solving this one:

I think that it's

Nevermind. I'm on the right track, but I forget something. One second.
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01-25-2020 , 05:36 PM
My logic (could be wrong):

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Albert has a unique letter obviously. Those are bolded below.
CAT
DOG
HAS
MAX
DIM
TAG

TAG has no unique letters so it can't be that.

Next, Bernard. He had to think, so he didn't know it from having a unique letter himself. But he knows that Albert knows, so it can't be TAG.

Bernard has G. Knowing that TAG is eliminated, it must be DOG.

Cheryl knows that they both know, looks down at her D, and gets the right answer as well.
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01-25-2020 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
Proud of myself for solving this one:

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Albert: o
Bernard: g
Crystal: d

dog
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01-25-2020 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
My logic (could be wrong):

Spoiler:
Albert has a unique letter obviously. Those are bolded below.
CAT
DOG
HAS
MAX
DIM
TAG

TAG has no unique letters so it can't be that.

Next, Bernard. He had to think, so he didn't know it from having a unique letter himself. But he knows that Albert knows, so it can't be TAG.

Bernard has G. Knowing that TAG is eliminated, it must be DOG.

Cheryl knows that they both know, looks down at her D, and gets the right answer as well.
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You're right but if you want to be complete then you've also got to consider something else. Imagine that Albert had C. He'd know immediately that the word was Cat. Bernard having the T would know from Albert's reaction that the word is cat. Cheryl has an A and from her point of view the word can be CAT or HAS. Because Bernard paused for a second it has to be CAT rather than HAS.

What about that?
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01-25-2020 , 05:52 PM
Ok, instead I think that its:

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DOG

For Albert, it has to be one of the unique letters on the board {C, O, H, S, X, I}, so Tag is out, since none of those are unique.

Any word that has A is out because if Albert gets them, then he wouldn't know the word of course. If Bernard gets them, they he also can't know the word since there's still 4 options (3 if we ignore TAG).

It can't be DIM since Albert has to get I first, and in either case of D or M Bernard will not know the word since it could have gone ID/OD or IM/XM to get to him.

It is DOG since Albert would have gotten O, then Bernard wold have gotten G (but knowing that it can't be TAG) he would know that it's DOG, which means that Cheryl gets D (slut), but she knows that it didn't go IMD (for MID) because when Bernard got M he wouldn't have known if it was XM or IM so he wouldn't have know the word.

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01-25-2020 , 05:55 PM
Good puzzle.

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DOG. tag doesn't work for first guy. dim and max don't work. Cat and has have the same problem for the third person.

First person gets o. Knows its dog.

Second person gets g. Knows it can't be tag, because first person wouldn't be able to know if they got t-a-g.

Third person gets d. It can't be dim, because if second person got i, first wouldn't have known with m (max or dim), and if second person got m, first could've had x for max or i for dim, so 2nd person wouldn't know if it was dim or max.
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01-25-2020 , 06:13 PM
The pauses to think don't actually affect the logic. The final result is mechanically determined.

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cat dog has max dim tag

Albert knows the word, so as everybody says, he has one of c,o,h,s,x,i. And the word is one of

cat dog has max dim

Bernard cannot have the c, otherwise the word would be cat, but Albert wouldn't know that. Similarly, Bernard doesn't have any of o, x, i. Therefore, he has one of t,g,s,h. So the word is one of

cat dog has

Cheryl can't have c,t,o,g,h,s for the same reasons Bernard's letters were restricted. If she has the a, she can't differentiate between cat and has so she has d for dog, with Albert's o and Bernard's g.
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01-25-2020 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric
The pauses to think don't actually affect the logic. The final result is mechanically determined.
This. It's just there for effect.
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10-19-2020 , 05:13 PM
Is this solvable?

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10-19-2020 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rtspurs
Is this solvable?
Yes.

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Let's call C the center of the larger circle of which quarter of is showing. Draw a line from C to B. Lets call x = AB, y = AC and z = BC. Notice that y is the diameter of the smaller circle and that z is the radius of the larger circle. Then by Pythagorean theorem we have that sqrt(x^2+y^2)=z. Now since z is the radius of the larger circle, then its area is pi*z^2 and thus the area of the quarter circle is (1/4)*pi*z^2. Area of the smaller circle is (1/4)*pi*y^2 (this time we're using the formula with the diameter).

Hence the area of the shaded shape is (1/4)*pi*z^2-(1/4)*pi*y^2 = (1/4)*pi*(sqrt(x^2+y^2)^2-y^2) = (1/4)*pi*(x^2+y^2-y^2) = (1/4)*pi*x^2 = ((12^2)/4)*pi = 36*pi.
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10-19-2020 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by A missread issue
Yes.

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Let's call C the center of the larger circle of which quarter of is showing. Draw a line from C to B. Lets call x = AB, y = AC and z = BC. Notice that y is the diameter of the smaller circle and that z is the radius of the larger circle. Then by Pythagorean theorem we have that sqrt(x^2+y^2)=z. Now since z is the radius of the larger circle, then its area is pi*z^2 and thus the area of the quarter circle is (1/4)*pi*z^2. Area of the smaller circle is (1/4)*pi*y^2 (this time we're using the formula with the diameter).

Hence the area of the shaded shape is (1/4)*pi*z^2-(1/4)*pi*y^2 = (1/4)*pi*(sqrt(x^2+y^2)^2-y^2) = (1/4)*pi*(x^2+y^2-y^2) = (1/4)*pi*x^2 = ((12^2)/4)*pi = 36*pi.
Excellent, thanks!
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10-19-2020 , 06:33 PM
ugh

got notification of post in this thread while i was writing up the solution and AMI already solved it

well done


only thing I'll add is that the answer for any AB here is (AB/2)^2*pi


AB = 12 here -> 12/2 = 6 * 6 = 36pi
AB = 10 -> 10/2 = 5 * 5 = 25pi
AB = 16 -> 16/2 = 8 * 8 = 64pi

of course that's just because his final equation was (AB^2)/4 which simplifies to (AB/2)^2 so it's trivial but kind of cool how easy it is to solve this for any number now.
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10-19-2020 , 06:57 PM
Sorry about that.

I did put it in spoilers just in case others wanted to solve it.

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What I think is interesting that if you take another quarter circle with the radius AB, it has the same area as the shaded shape. And like nich said the AB can be anything, which means that you can draw the smaller circle anywhere inside the quarter circle and draw the line parallel to the line here to get the same result.
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