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first of all, make it bigger than 200 the first time around

second of all, lolcalling. and a 5bet IS a ship here. so either shove or fold depending on reads

so 5/10/20 straddle. raise to 60. im in the bb. how big should my 3bet be?

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Originally Posted by legend42

Here was my most interesting hand in my last 1/2 session.

I'm running the table from the #5 seat, my stack is over $1500, dude sits in the #1 seat and immediately starts trying to talk poker with me, which is a leak I have. One hand he pushes on the turn and doubles through me with flopped bottom set (I had KK on like a J836 board) and we talk more poker, I smack him down in a couple other pots, etc.

Then his friend moves from a broken table with about $800 moves into the #2 seat, and just from the talk, it's clear the friend is a better player. But they're also both drinking. About 2 orbits in, the "friend" straddles for $5, I make it $15 with QQ from the #5 seat. Two callers I think, he raises to $50 from the straddle. I make it $220. Folded to him. He thinks for a little while and flats. Flop is KT9r. He pauses for about 5 seconds and says all-in. Me?

that's pretty gross. if he had 800 to start, pot is about 1k and cost you 580 to call. he's almost certainly ahead(unless he's pretty drunk), and you need about 3 to 1 to call.

a sober person doesn't call a 100bb 4bet without a monster hand. if he's fairly sober i fold. if he's fairly drunk it's a tough call. if he's very drunk it's an easy call.

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04-21-2015 , 01:19 AM

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soah

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Making it 200 over a raise to 60 is fine.

Making it 220 over a threebet to 50 is way too big unless you're expecting him to call any amount with junk.

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04-21-2015 , 01:24 AM

#23603

PrimordialAA

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jam like a man, stop being a nit

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04-21-2015 , 01:26 AM

#23604

Anarchist

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250

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04-21-2015 , 01:27 AM

#23605

filthyvermin

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i often 4x or even more with my 3bets when i have people who will call with junk. i generally make my raises bigger than anyone else, especially preflop. i can sit there and fold for an hour then raise 5x and have about a 20% chance to take it down preflop.

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04-21-2015 , 01:32 AM

#23606

filthyvermin

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Originally Posted by PrimordialAA

jam like a man, stop being a nit

lol! stfu! you dam canadian!

seriously though, i am lost deep stacked in multiway pots in 4bet and 5bet situations.

let's say i raise from MP with JJ to 40(5/10 blinds), and the cutoff(who is a bluffy lag, but a good player) makes it 120. we have about 4k. i should 4bet, right? how much do i raise? what do i do if he 5bets?

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04-21-2015 , 01:32 AM

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legend42

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Yeah I folded, he mucked and smiled at his friend. Felt like a total bitch.

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04-21-2015 , 01:34 AM

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soah

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Originally Posted by filthyvermin

That seems really spewy.

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04-21-2015 , 01:35 AM

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soah

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Did you ninja-edit your post before I quoted it?

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04-21-2015 , 01:39 AM

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filthyvermin

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Originally Posted by soah

That seems really spewy.

there are 5 to 6 regs in my game who will 3bet me there and sometimes have random suited trash(T7, 74, 64). only 2 of them crush the game. the others are all winners though.

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04-21-2015 , 01:41 AM

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filthyvermin

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Originally Posted by soah

Did you ninja-edit your post before I quoted it?

i changed it from utg+1 to mp.

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04-21-2015 , 01:43 AM

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soah

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Well I don't want to play an 800bb pot with a pair of jacks and I also don't want to not see a flop with a hand that can flop the nuts and has automatic showdown value.

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04-21-2015 , 01:48 AM

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filthyvermin

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i've never 4bet with JJ there, but i think those regs are 3betting me light. i think they know i suck at defending against 3bets or higher.

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04-21-2015 , 01:54 AM

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legend42

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Originally Posted by soah

Making it 200 over a raise to 60 is fine.

Making it 220 over a threebet to 50 is way too big unless you're expecting him to call any amount with junk.

It was kind of weird, because we were definitely trying to big-time each other, but neither of us really wanted to tangle, either. I was hoping he'd push over my raise, and I definitely would have called pf, but the way he shoved the flop made me think I was beat.

It sucked, because their other friends made them both leave not too long after that.

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04-21-2015 , 06:46 AM

#23615

biggerboat

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Originally Posted by Anarchist

btw stop limping

That particular limp wasn't good. I get bored sometimes when I'm card dead. I normally toss things like that. I really don't think I would raise that.

But, really, is limping occasionally so bad? I mean, I do raise my good hands but what about things like mid pocket pairs or suited connectors like 89. Are these really raises? Even in early position? Why is limping these bad?

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04-21-2015 , 07:05 AM

#23616

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the only time i limp is early position, and it's usually with the idea of reraising if i get the chance.

you don't want to give the blinds free looks at the flops. you want to be able to represent top pair top kicker so you can take it down with a cbet. you want to play bigger pots when you are the aggressor.

depending on the table at 1/2 i'm probably just folding 89s in early position. i'd def raise it in LP if it folded to me. raise your PPs unless your utg or utg+1 and they are below 55. otherwise probably limp.

this strategy is pretty exploitable, but don't worry about people exploiting it at 1/2

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04-21-2015 , 07:33 AM

#23617

biggerboat

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So, what is your raising range in late position?

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04-21-2015 , 08:20 AM

#23618

kokiri

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Originally Posted by filthyvermin

oh i found out one of the regs in my game has gone deep in the wsop more than once and has a blog. he is very good. i hate it when he plays. i've only seen him lose once(thanks to me woot woot!) i don't remember who he is, but i'll find out.

somehow i got him in my last session. i was sb and he was bb. i had QQ at 5/10 with about 3500. someone raised. i 3bet. bb 4bet. i shoved. he called. flop was T83, turn K, river 2. i flipped my QQ and he mucked?!?!?! lol!! i was playing crazy aggro that session. i guess he thought i was a maniac

and even with that hand, i still lost about 7k that session... somewhere between 5k and 8k. i don't remember. i don't want to. but i do have it written down

Describe him

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04-21-2015 , 08:21 AM

#23619

kokiri

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thinkingpoker: Put in 300 bigs with jj pre. It was not the best hand.
http://twitter.com/thinkingpoker/sta...60837960290304

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04-21-2015 , 10:24 AM

#23620

fnord_too

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Thinking about heading to the parx on Saturday. Any time suggestions ( like games are not tests before noon or whatever)? I'm planning on playing 1/2. Maybe trying 2/5 if I do well.

Edit - looks like they have high hand payouts from 12 pm to 10 pm. If I go I'll probably try to be there by noon and play all day.

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04-21-2015 , 11:27 AM

#23621

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glgl

when you get there, there will be two buildings: a very big casino building with all the table games (don't go in here!) and a slightly smaller building that says "parx east" on it that has horse racing and poker. go in that building on the left side, up the escalator, and make a quick left into the poker room

the players' cards only pay $1/hr for low stakes but the poker room menu (available at the table or at the bar on the side of the poker room) is surprisingly good

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04-21-2015 , 11:31 AM

#23622

fnord_too

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Are you going to be there on Sunday annie?

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04-21-2015 , 11:32 AM

#23623

Anarchist

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bigger, i'm sure most of your limps are profitable at $1-$2, but that stake is just a battleground for higher stakes, right? and you don't want to get in the habit of being too limpy. you will get destroyed by better players

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04-21-2015 , 11:33 AM

#23624

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Originally Posted by fnord_too

Are you going to be there on Sunday annie?

no, i crashed my dad's car and his rental car can't leave CT :/

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04-21-2015 , 11:41 AM

#23625

fnord_too

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That blows. Are you still planning on moving in the fall? How has bovada been to you lately? I am playing more mtts lately (uggg, boring as hell but so ****ing soft). I don't get sat so much in hu hypers anymore, so I guess I'm playing halfway decently in those.

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