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04-18-2015 , 02:05 PM
Usually 400 but this month 500.
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04-18-2015 , 06:00 PM
biggerboat
high hand pro
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04-18-2015 , 08:00 PM
last night was my first losing session since apr 1st. i think i had winner's tilt. i played really bad.
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04-19-2015 , 01:29 AM
Villain feels like a calling station fish

Nl 1/2 200 effective

I raise 10 with two black eights from hj, only station calls in bb

Flop (21)
245hh

He checks
I bet 15
He raises to 40
I call

Turn J off
He bets 45

Me?
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04-19-2015 , 07:40 AM
fold
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04-19-2015 , 08:01 AM
Yesterday there was a hand with 5 or 6 limpers. The guy in the sb raised it to $50 then showed everyone his AA. Not just flashed but proudly displayed them right when he raised. Then he said "I hate playing aces so I wanted everyone to fold."

Then a few hands later some guy limped with AA and lost and he and the first guy had quite a discussion about how AA never wins.
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04-19-2015 , 12:31 PM
Works going nicely on my software (I'm not able to spend too much time on it, but I am pretty happy with how productive that time is). So, since no one wants to give me GUI feedback, what about functionality feedback? Here are some features I am looking at implementing at some point:

1. Range / Spot developer - here you would have your range, villains range, Street (and board if applicable), stacks, and pot size. You could then select hands from your range for various lines, and villains range for his lines. Also, you will be setting the betting lines. If you are familiar with Janda's book, this basically facilitates the part where he is working through spots.

2. Enhancements to above - showing the balance of your ranges (stuff like value to bluff ratios), showing GTO bluff ratio's given lines and maybe assumptions (like equity of bluff and value hands), breaking your range into equity vs villains range categories to help with establishing your ranges, and EV of range/strategy vs range/strategy

3. Solving spots - this would take a given strategy vs strategy and solve for ranges for each action. For instance, the simplest case would be the shove or fold game pre flop at a specific effective stack size.

4. Range miner / policer - something to try to figure out opponents ranges from hand histories, see if you are getting outside your specific ranges.

5. Maybe an STT / MTT version for when chip EV != cashing EV

6. I don't know, make some suggestions

So which of these do you like? Priority?

I may do a kick starter once I have enough done to at least demo the UI, or not. I would love to be able to spend more time on it, but as is I am progressing at a reasonable pace and learning javaFX and the java 8 stuff as a bonus.
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04-19-2015 , 01:45 PM
just played a 16 hour session. i lost 13.5k during one stretch. was down to my last 1500, ran it up to 7500 and quit. made a couple of stupid bluffs i gotta stop that.

i lost a huge pot when a ****ing ******* 3bet me with 74s and flopped two pair. i run so ****ing bad.

i lost another huge pot when i flopped a straight flush draw. i swear to ****. every single ****ing time i flop a straight flush draw i lose. **** straight flush draws. i should ****ing fold suited connectors every ****ing time. ****ing bull****. ****.
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04-19-2015 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
made another horrific tired mistake. i gotta stop these looooong sessions.
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just played a 16 hour session.
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04-19-2015 , 05:25 PM
i know. i know. i konw. but i was HUGELY +ev, at least at the end of the session(short handed with terrible players).

let me see if i can remember my worst hand of the night.....

i had JsTs i raised 4x to 40. 3 callers, 2 behind me and the BB.

flop(160)
Tc6c3h
check
i bet 100
fold
fold
check/raise 250
i call

turn(660)
turn 2s
bb bets 200
i call

river(1060)
8c
bb bets 200
i jam 1300

that was one of three ill advised huge river bluffs(0/3 ldo). i was stunned when he turned over QQ lol

i know i played it godawful. i'm posting it for selfshame. the only good thing is it's burned in the whole table's memory. and i'm sure some of them thought i was shoving for value lol
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04-19-2015 , 05:30 PM
we were playing 4 handed 5/10/20 and i lost a few in a row. i was super tilted and i picke up AKs. i 3bet to 200. i was getting called preflop like 90% even if i 3bet. ldo everyone folds. very next hand i get TT and i 3bet to 200 again and everyone folds. very next hand i get TT again and i open from the sb to 200 and everyone folds. 4th hand in a row i get KK and i open to 200 and everyone folds. ****!!
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04-19-2015 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
i know. i know. i konw. but i was HUGELY +ev, at least at the end of the session(short handed with terrible players).

let me see if i can remember my worst hand of the night.....

i had JsTs i raised 4x to 40. 3 callers, 2 behind me and the BB.

flop(160)
Tc6c3h
check
i bet 100
fold
fold
check/raise 250
i call

turn(660)
turn 2s
bb bets 200
i call

river(1060)
8c
bb bets 200
i jam 1300

that was one of three ill advised huge river bluffs(0/3 ldo). i was stunned when he turned over QQ lol

i know i played it godawful. i'm posting it for selfshame. the only good thing is it's burned in the whole table's memory. and i'm sure some of them thought i was shoving for value lol

If you are stunned when he flips over QQ then what are you trying to make fold?
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04-19-2015 , 05:41 PM
Realized why i dont play much anymore

Losing money sucks
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04-19-2015 , 05:47 PM
i kinda think the tj bluff works better against a non thinking player

feel like most flush draws you play aggro on that flop
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04-19-2015 , 05:50 PM
no one ever believes that the preflop raiser has a flush

on the river he's thinking, "well, I hope he doesn't have kings"
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04-19-2015 , 06:18 PM
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If you are stunned when he flips over QQ then what are you trying to make fold?
lol ugh it was a very ill conceived play i was mostly stunned because he flatted preflop. jfc. and then his tiny bets look like blocking bets.

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Originally Posted by pwnsall
i kinda think the tj bluff works better against a non thinking player

feel like most flush draws you play aggro on that flop
you mean i would have 3bet him on the flop? i usually play a flush draw like i did this hand. i'd just call. isn't that what most people do?

last night at one point i did 3bet my flush draw, and it was def different than i normally play it. (ldo that didn't work out). but i've been assuming most people will not 3bet a flush draw if they're fairly deep and getting good odds to call.

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no one ever believes that the preflop raiser has a flush

on the river he's thinking, "well, I hope he doesn't have kings"
lol he probably was. jfc.

btw i lost about 5k to this player last night. it was the best night of his career. and all together i gave THREE players the best nights of their career last night! lol!!! fml!! almost all my losses were to just 4 guys. one guy is so bad. i don't think i've ever seen him cash out. he was up 6k at one point. he played almost as long as i did. and i felted him at 9am. he bought in for about 4k. i felt bad for the guy.
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04-19-2015 , 06:25 PM
5-5 PLO

lost 4k pot all in on flop with AAK8ds, flop was A39, villain has 33JKr, turn 10, river Q

villain was super aggro and 3 bet like every pot he was in, he just flatted my 3 bet and pot check raised me till we gii, old people are so bad at PLO. jizzing over bottom set there for 800bb obv winning play
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04-19-2015 , 06:40 PM
sucks

filthy often says players in his games are bad but never really how or why they are bad
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04-19-2015 , 06:43 PM
stylez at least they tried to donate
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04-19-2015 , 06:43 PM
then again losing to a 33JK is a pretty ghastly thought
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04-19-2015 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
sucks

filthy often says players in his games are bad but never really how or why they are bad
there is a certain player who shall remain nameless. legend has it that he once played 35 hands in a row.

there is another player who will stack off up to 200bb deep with middle pair or better about 80% of the time.

these are 5/10 players. but they are the worst of the worst. there are a few more i could describe, but i don't want to get too specific.
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04-19-2015 , 06:55 PM
ya flatting 3 bets with 33KJ out of position is very +ev in the long run

but yea what can you do. just really sucks because live PLO like never comes up at fallsview when im there so when the interest list had 7 people on it i got excited. then the table was pretty much a dream in terms of action. surprised he didnt just flat me, back to sucking online for me :P
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04-19-2015 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fnord_too
Works going nicely on my software (I'm not able to spend too much time on it, but I am pretty happy with how productive that time is). So, since no one wants to give me GUI feedback, what about functionality feedback? Here are some features I am looking at implementing at some point:

1. Range / Spot developer - here you would have your range, villains range, Street (and board if applicable), stacks, and pot size. You could then select hands from your range for various lines, and villains range for his lines. Also, you will be setting the betting lines. If you are familiar with Janda's book, this basically facilitates the part where he is working through spots.

2. Enhancements to above - showing the balance of your ranges (stuff like value to bluff ratios), showing GTO bluff ratio's given lines and maybe assumptions (like equity of bluff and value hands), breaking your range into equity vs villains range categories to help with establishing your ranges, and EV of range/strategy vs range/strategy

3. Solving spots - this would take a given strategy vs strategy and solve for ranges for each action. For instance, the simplest case would be the shove or fold game pre flop at a specific effective stack size.

4. Range miner / policer - something to try to figure out opponents ranges from hand histories, see if you are getting outside your specific ranges.

5. Maybe an STT / MTT version for when chip EV != cashing EV

6. I don't know, make some suggestions

So which of these do you like? Priority?

I may do a kick starter once I have enough done to at least demo the UI, or not. I would love to be able to spend more time on it, but as is I am progressing at a reasonable pace and learning javaFX and the java 8 stuff as a bonus.
I don't have any good suggestions other than make it super easy to use.

Will this be a phone app?
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04-20-2015 , 08:01 AM
Hands I folded yesterday

KK preflop
QJ on QQ7 board
King high flush on a non-paired board

Last edited by biggerboat; 04-20-2015 at 08:18 AM.
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04-20-2015 , 10:02 AM
I folded KK preflop once when I got 4-bet by an old man who always has AA there.

It would be pretty hard for me to fold QJ there. Maybe facing a big bet followed by a shove AI.

Folding the 2nd nuts on the river is usually a mistake to one bet. If a nit bet, you raised and then the nit re-raised sure.
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