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04-02-2015 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
wait now i'm getting 12.6% to win vs 2 players with random hands. im too tired.
None of the figures you've said so far sounds right.

My read is that filthy's image in this thread is about 50% fiction/exaggeration/letting go of feelings he knows are wrong, although I'd guess that the woeful br management portion is legit.
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04-02-2015 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
None of the figures you've said so far sounds right.

My read is that filthy's image in this thread is about 50% fiction/exaggeration/letting go of feelings he knows are wrong, although I'd guess that the woeful br management portion is legit.
lol! i've always said my br management is fine.... in poker. it's terrible in the stock market. i've haven't taken any ill advised shots in poker since like 2009 or so.

losing 9k last night hurts though. im sick about it.

i haven't lied or exaggerated about a single hand in this thread.
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04-02-2015 , 02:46 PM
K5o on a board of AdKdJcTd4d

vs 1 player with atc 37%

vs 2 players with atc 13%

pretty sure that's right
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04-02-2015 , 03:07 PM
So if they both have atc it's a call!

(600 * .13) + (100 * .24) - (100 * .63) = +39
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04-02-2015 , 03:09 PM
(That's tongue in cheek since I know the fold argument is based on them having > atc 90% of the time, but MATH!)
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04-02-2015 , 03:22 PM
I don't raise K5o there -- I want something more connected or suited that's playable post flop because limper is rarely folding.
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04-02-2015 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by baudib1
I don't raise K5o there -- I want something more connected or suited that's playable post flop because limper is rarely folding.
limper folds a ton, probably around 65%
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04-02-2015 , 04:18 PM
god no one ever folds to me
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04-02-2015 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by baudib1
god no one ever folds to me
hmmmm..... i wonder how you could work that to your advantage.... hmmm.....
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04-02-2015 , 04:38 PM
yeah i agree with bdubs. no one folds to my face. i usually just pass on the K5 spot
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04-02-2015 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
yeah i agree with bdubs. no one folds to my face. i usually just pass on the K5 spot
this is why Annie and me GII pre against each other with TT and 88 and feel good about it.
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04-02-2015 , 05:21 PM
the good regs seem to 3bet and 4bet me a lot, even 5bet me

im not really that comfortable in 3bet pots, let alone 4 and 5bet.

this very good reg was 3betting me like crazy last night. we were playing 5handed mostly.

we were 4handed and i had 77 otb with like 3k. i opened for 80. he was in bb and made it 350 for like the 100th time. i made it 1000(my first 4bet)???? he jammed and i folded????
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04-02-2015 , 05:26 PM
if a guy is 3betting too much, what kind of hands do you 4bet with? assuming you're like 200bbs deep. what kind of hands are you calling a 5bet with vs the guy who is 3betting too much?

if you think he is 4betting you light(relatively), what kind of hands are you 5betting with?

how deep to you have to be to 5bet/fold?
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04-02-2015 , 05:28 PM
Do you ever flat 3 bets?
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04-02-2015 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by baudib1
god no one ever folds to me
+ 1
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04-02-2015 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
if a guy is 3betting too much, what kind of hands do you 4bet with? assuming you're like 200bbs deep. what kind of hands are you calling a 5bet with vs the guy who is 3betting too much?

if you think he is 4betting you light(relatively), what kind of hands are you 5betting with?

how deep to you have to be to 5bet/fold?
it depends on how they respond to 3-bets/4-bets and what kind of range they are reraising with, and who's OOP and IP.

here are some hands from my Monday morning session from a 2/5 deepstack game (it was mostly 2/5/10)...everyone has at least 1K and several have 2500-3000, I have mostly everyone covered in all three

Straddle, 1 call, HJ makes it $50, 3 calls, I make it $250 from the BB, folds to HJ who calls, everyone else folds

I straddle, 4 limps, I make it $95, everyone calls

no straddle, 2 limps, CO makes it $20, I make it $85, everyone calls

I had AA all three times
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04-02-2015 , 06:03 PM
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Do you ever flat 3 bets?
lol yes. but i feel a lot more lost when it comes to raising 3bets
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04-02-2015 , 06:10 PM
My plo table was kinda weird yesterday. Zero 3bets in the hour that i played. Pretty passive table and i was getting max value from my hands. Looking back i prob shouldve played longer..
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04-02-2015 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
Contemplating moving up to 2/5. Not sure how I know if I'm ready.
if you're sure you're playing better than the $1-$2 players and you have a bankroll, move up
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04-02-2015 , 06:18 PM
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Need a parx meetup this month!
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in

pm me if you can get others and make it happen
I'll probably be there Sundays 19th & 26th

lmk if these dates work
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04-02-2015 , 06:21 PM
when i moved up to 3/5 i was sure everyone was way better than i was, and just about every single one of them was a lot worse..... like a lot a lot.

generally speaking, they are better than 1/2 players. there is a little bit of thought from your opponents about what kind of hand you might have sometimes. there are probably a few pros. but you will still see plenty of really bad players making horrible mistakes.

move up!!
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04-02-2015 , 06:34 PM
It took me a long time to move up to 2/5, partly because I was absolutely destroying 1/2 and it seemed like variance free easy money, also because I felt some of the 2/5 guys must be really good, from talking to them. My experience has been there are some local grinder pros who are competent, but almost none of them are amazing, I feel like the best player 95+% of the time.

I might be going to Parx pretty soon.
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04-02-2015 , 06:39 PM
there are like 5 good 2-5 players in any casino, and that might be generous
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04-02-2015 , 06:53 PM
the only problem at 2/5 is running into a lot of people who won't give any action.
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04-02-2015 , 06:55 PM
that's the fundamental problem with cash games! should all have three big blinds. or antes
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