Zooooooom poker, no reads

This is ******ed or brilliant?

What's wrong with calling?

i don't really know how to play poker with so many people in the game, but it seems like calling is fairly standard, no?

Raising doesn't make any sense there.

I don't have the best hand.

While this may be true (although I don't necessarily agree with it), trying to make him fold better is suicide.

in which case what is the idea behind calling the turn? You think that there you still have the best hand often enough plus bluffing outs? It feels a little like stack sizes are awkward - you're lucky he bet so small on the river, else you might not have enough stack left for your raise ai to get a fold?

Feels like versus an unknown it's probably spew, perhaps if you had a feel for the player you could convince yourself it was a more solidly +EV play. River bet sizing does make me want to ship.

Calling the river feels like it's monkey clicking off stacks unless people are really bluffy and love three barrelling air.

On the turn he can still be betting a lot of worse hands because my flop call could be any piece of the board, and he wants to protect his hand or make me fold a weak pair. So I have to call there because my hand is good often enough. But my range on the river is much stronger and with no cards left to come, he's never betting worse for value and unlikely to be bluffing.

Do you think that, facing the turn bet, it's going to be easy to get to showdown most of the time (when you are ahead)? (i.e. you think his range for betting here is plain, thus eliminating the ROI when calling the turn, how true is that going to be on black rivers, or heart rivers?)

How different would it be if the board was Q T 2?

When you look at his betsizing, it's pretty obvious this guy is fishy. I also think you're wrong that he's never betting worse for value and unlikely to be bluffing. Also, in general fish don't have fold buttons, especially with overpairs.

I think my mistake in the hand was that by the time I reached the river I had forgotten about how he'd given himself away as a donk preflop. And it may have been optimistic to think that AA/KK is a big part of his range on the river. People miss value like it's their job in these games three barreling one pair in a threebet pot is thin value, especially when a draw completes itself somewhere. He snapcalled with a six high flush.

I was expecting to get a free showdown most of the time.

It was more optimistic to expect him to fold it imo.

Yeah calling turn is fine but river is either a call or a fold depending on villain imo.

I'm really enjoying zoom, it's kinda resparked my love of poker, I can't go off in chat anymore which is cool.

this also could be because I haven't had a losing session yet

i think it's potentially a good shove

been grinding some low stakes plo on merge, fun times!

thinking about it a bit more i'd either fold or shove but not call

hey guys

this is a crazy poker happening to share wiith poggers imo

it might be the most ridiculous hand I've ever played

it's not the biggest pot or the sickest cooler or the awesomest bluffcatch or the most ******ed spew (although it ranks pretty decently on that scale I suppose)

but it's the only time I've ever gotten to shove over three different people who cold-raised behind me





if bb weren't ******ed, sb probably would have doubled through me

grunch

What hands that beat you is he actually folding there?

I think a call is good there because you played your line out as if you were trying to control the size of the pot. I'm not sure you get him to fold any hands that beat you, and if this is NL100 and you have no reads its probably safe to assume that you can play on level 1 and be okay. The guy showed aggression all hand against a paired board, a relatively wet flop (especially against hands in a 3bet call range), and then the potential flush completion on the river. Unless this guy is just a spewtard (but again you have no way to know), he is telling you that he doesn't care about all of those threats on the board.

Theres a chance he's just a mid-stakes donkey overplaying KK or AA here, but QQ, TT are just as likely here, and I'm not so sure shipping against a hand range like that is all that bright, especially with no prior reads.

With calling the 3bet pre, you have essentially polarized your range to something like AKdd, AQos, AJdd if your opponent is assuming that you connected with the flop in some way (at least in juxtaposition to the line played on the river).

I understand your line, and I don't think its bad IF you feel it is the only chance you have to win the hand. Is the fold equity good enough to merit a shove there? You stand to net $78 on the river and you're shipping 110 on the hopes that he isn't sitting on a flush or a boat himself... Its pretty risky, but as I said if its your only shot than to surrender the hand, then I guess its okay. Calling isn't terrible either though.

Sorry if these thoughts are disorganized, thats kind of just my way of thinking of poker hands.

this I think

But for pot control purposes and for information calling isnt abysmal

But then again, he has no specific reads so I almost think giving the hand up on the riv is best.

maybe even the turn after the board pairs

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