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09-07-2010 , 01:10 PM
a lot of his trips are either splitting or beating you, and even A6 can get nitty and not shove, so unless he spazzes out with a 2, you're asking whether he has a 67 or 7x like 50% of the time. Seems unlikely, without doing some combinatronics.
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09-07-2010 , 01:11 PM
If I said that I thought he wasn't shoving naked trips with the *possible* exception of A6, what would you guys say?
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09-07-2010 , 01:13 PM
he could have 33
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09-07-2010 , 01:14 PM
i think that makes sense to me.
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09-07-2010 , 01:17 PM
He doesn't have to be shoving too many worse hands for value in order for this to be a call. Even less if he folds 65o and 64o preflop. I can't really see folding
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09-07-2010 , 01:17 PM
Rank the following lines:

b/c
b/f
c/c
c/f

Spoiler:
b/f>>>>>>>>>>c/c>>>c/f>b/c
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09-07-2010 , 01:27 PM
Results?
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09-07-2010 , 01:34 PM
I folded (ldo, I'm a huge nit in big pots) and tabled my hand. He appeared mad that I folded.
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09-07-2010 , 01:39 PM
tabling your hand there seems silly. it isn't like you want to encourage bluffs since you'd onyl call with the nuts
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09-07-2010 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
I folded (ldo, I'm a huge nit in big pots) and tabled my hand. He appeared mad that I folded.
Seems like the right play, since once he raises you're probably chopping at best. Donkplayed boats are definitely in his range here.
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09-07-2010 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by wahoopride
tabling your hand there seems silly. it isn't like you want to encourage bluffs since you'd onyl call with the nuts
I wanted a reaction which would basically let me figure out if i had made the correct play

I don't really expect to be exploited at 2/5, and even if people decide to bluff, they likely will do it in stupid spots which I will be able to figure out
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09-07-2010 , 02:29 PM
I cant imagine c/f being better than b/c there tbh.
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09-07-2010 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
played a pretty interesting hand at 2/5 NL at the Borg this weekend:

I raise 97dd from UTG+2 to $20, get calls from HJ and SB. Eff. stacks are about $600. Villain is effectively unknown, mid 30's player that doesn't appear to be good or mentally handicapped. I have been well behaved and my image is likely tight/aggro

Flop is 566 with two spades. SB checks, I bet $40 and get a call from the HJ (SB folds).

Pot is now like 140. Turn is a 4o. I bet $80 with my newfound equity, and he takes about 15 seconds to think and count out his chips before he calls.

River is 3o. my money card! pot at this point is like $300. I think for about 10 seconds and bet $200. He shoves for about $250 more after about 5 seconds. I puke, and.........
grunch, timing tells say fold and i assume he's probably not capable of a bluff so he at least thinks he has the best hand
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09-07-2010 , 06:08 PM
I just checked my bonus offer from FTP as per yalls suggestions and mine is $400. How many hours of say rush NL50 would this take to clear? I may need to move some money to ftp.
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09-07-2010 , 07:05 PM
fold the 7. if you call, you are calling just to chop. i don't think he bluff raises you very often here and 7x is the absolute bottom of his shoving range
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09-07-2010 , 07:16 PM
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argh

so since I have my address as in canada, I need to show them proof of address to change, but I don't have anything until at least another month.

I think I might be able to do it with someone else through transfers though.
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What do US people use to make withdrawals from stars?

I've never deposited with echecks, so I'm pretty sure I can't withdraw with one either.
If I was you, I'd stick with using a Canadian address for the time being. I live in the US now but I still keep all my poker accounts with Canadian addresses and linked to a Canadian bank account.

The Canadian government is almost always going to give you better options in regards to poker.
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09-07-2010 , 09:21 PM
is the 5r the softest tourney on stars? im crushing the 6 pm one and not having to do anything special. why dont i play this more often?
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09-07-2010 , 10:58 PM
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Because i'm bad at poker
If you're bad at poker you should fold it ;P
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09-07-2010 , 11:01 PM
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So I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm considering moving my roll to cereus. No more rb at tilt, and stars vip doesn't cut it for my small volume, plus not a fan of how they seperated out the cash tables. Anyone have experiencre with cereus at low stakes?
I still play some on the Cereus network. The games are terrible (because if you're good why would you play there??!?!) Cashing out points directly into cash is the nuts, along with there almost always being a bonus you can be clearing. Clears 50% rakeback imo.
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09-08-2010 , 02:39 PM
How spewy is this?

Villain is new to me, seems to be not an idiot, but is very 3bet happy over a small sample. I was in the process of deciding this table was not a good one to be sitting in.

Prior orbit, villain opened utg, I 3 bet QQ in the blinds, he flatted QQ, I cbet ATx, he flatted and we checked down on J, x. I 4 bet intending to sigh call if shoved on, but in retrospect maybe my 4 bet is too small (what is normal 4 bet sizing? I tend to swoosh the slider a bit and rand() ).

His donk made no sense to me with AA/AK/KK, does he fold QQ-TT getting 25:75?

Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $55.00
UTG: $37.95
MP: $54.65
CO: $39.95
Hero (BTN): $62.45
SB: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 9 9
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB raises to $5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $12, SB calls $7

Flop: ($24.50) 8 K 4 (2 players)
SB bets $15.50, Hero raises to $50.45, SB has $24 left.
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09-08-2010 , 02:40 PM
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If you're bad at poker you should fold it ;P
several drinks and several hours in it seemed like a good idea
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09-08-2010 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
How spewy is this?

Villain is new to me, seems to be not an idiot, but is very 3bet happy over a small sample. I was in the process of deciding this table was not a good one to be sitting in.

Prior orbit, villain opened utg, I 3 bet QQ in the blinds, he flatted QQ, I cbet ATx, he flatted and we checked down on J, x. I 4 bet intending to sigh call if shoved on, but in retrospect maybe my 4 bet is too small (what is normal 4 bet sizing? I tend to swoosh the slider a bit and rand() ).

His donk made no sense to me with AA/AK/KK, does he fold QQ-TT getting 25:75?

Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $55.00
UTG: $37.95
MP: $54.65
CO: $39.95
Hero (BTN): $62.45
SB: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 9 9
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB raises to $5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $12, SB calls $7

Flop: ($24.50) 8 K 4 (2 players)
SB bets $15.50, Hero raises to $50.45, SB has $24 left.
Maybe if I had more money left but this is just spewy imo
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09-08-2010 , 02:49 PM
Like IFlat spewy?
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09-08-2010 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
Like IFlat spewy?
Basically

I don't think he ever folds a better hand
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09-08-2010 , 02:54 PM
If he wanted to stack off with JJ (and didn't 5bai it) it makes more sense to CRAI, surely? Or do you think he bets with the intention of bet/folding, but ultimately can't find the fold button? (and even if he never folds better, how often does he have worse, and how do I play versus those hands?)

[I played a hand yesterday where I 3bet the button with AT, got called by the pfr, who donked 3/4 pot on Txx and jammed 125% of pot on a T turn with 33 no draw. Donking 3bet pots seems to be popular at 50NL, presumably because people are trying to get you off light 3 bets or whiffed AK type hands, but if that's all the donk, then hmmm]
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