yeah, lol. guy was in the game again until just a few minutes but was playing quite snuggly. Misclick maybe?

ok seriously... I think I'd make more money if I'd just run at normal expectation because I'd put in so many more hours... once again today I sit down and win some pots and completely lose focus so the session lasts <1 hour.

My year-to-date for NL on Stars (I'm down a bit at limit and up a bit in FTP in a different db):



I'm gonna freaking lose SuperNova by the end of this month if I don't start running a lot worse.

Although to be fair, I was entirely unable to sleep last night and felt terrible when I woke up, so I wasn't even planning to play at all today and got started ridiculously late.

I need to find a way to make myself actually put in no less than 20 hours of play each week, every week. Tomorrow's a Friday so after I run some errands I'm going to put in 2k hands no matter what and then I'm going to post about it afterwards.

I'm not even sure if this post is supposed to be a brag or a beat or just variance

I just won $1200 in 10 minutes

I'm glad I violated my no poker when drunk rule imo

I'm actually upset with myself, but I can deal with that tomorrow

PokerStars Game #24645644181: Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit ($5/$10) - 2009/02/06 4:50:15 ET
Table 'Gawain' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: xDKG ($613 in chips)
Seat 3: IKA258 ($231 in chips)
Seat 4: djforever ($134 in chips)
Seat 5: onlinekid ($97 in chips)
Seat 6: Oh ma hog ($1279 in chips)
Oh ma hog: posts small blind $2
xDKG: posts big blind $5
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to xDKG [Kd 3d 2s 4s 5h]
IKA258: folds
djforever: folds
onlinekid: raises $5 to $10
Oh ma hog: raises $5 to $15
xDKG: raises $5 to $20
Betting is capped
onlinekid: calls $10
Oh ma hog: calls $5
*** FIRST DRAW ***
Oh ma hog: discards 1 card
xDKG: discards 1 card [Kd]
Dealt to xDKG [3d 2s 4s 5h] [Kh]
onlinekid: discards 2 cards
Oh ma hog: checks
xDKG: bets $5
onlinekid: raises $5 to $10
Oh ma hog: calls $10
xDKG: calls $5
*** SECOND DRAW ***
Oh ma hog: discards 1 card
xDKG: discards 1 card [Kh]
Dealt to xDKG [3d 2s 4s 5h] [7c]
onlinekid: discards 1 card
Oh ma hog: checks
xDKG: bets $10
onlinekid: calls $10
Oh ma hog: raises $10 to $20
xDKG: raises $10 to $30
onlinekid: calls $20
Oh ma hog: raises $10 to $40
Betting is capped
xDKG: calls $10
onlinekid: calls $10
*** THIRD DRAW ***
Oh ma hog: stands pat
xDKG: stands pat on [3d 2s 4s 5h 7c]
onlinekid: stands pat
Oh ma hog: checks
xDKG: bets $10
onlinekid: calls $10
Oh ma hog: calls $10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xDKG: shows [7c 3d 2s 4s 5h] (Lo: 7,5,4,3,2)
onlinekid: mucks hand
Oh ma hog: mucks hand
xDKG collected $238 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $240 | Rake $2
Seat 1: xDKG (big blind) showed [7c 3d 2s 4s 5h] and won ($238) with Lo: 7,5,4,3,2
Seat 3: IKA258 folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 4: djforever folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 5: onlinekid (button) mucked [6h 7s 8c 4c 2c]
Seat 6: Oh ma hog (small blind) mucked [2d 3h 6d 5s 7d]

today has been a very good day.

sounds familiar imo

I looked you up on tableratings-- was that your first shot at 30/60? If so nice job.

all the ads are for .net sites, which are not gambling sites. however, the .com sites are. its a stupid set of rules.

standard.

I am grinding $4/180s ATM to teach myself the ways of the donkament.

140ish played -30% ROI

7 FTs - lost one getting A7s aipf vs JJ having just blown my chip lead the prev hand with KK < QJo - busted on 5 of them getting it in as a 70/30 fav and the other got it in as a 30/70. Bubbled ~5 FT's as well for good measure.

lol variance and stuff.

I need to get my roll sorted and getback to grinding NL cash I think.

This is going to sound creepy but I'm pretty sure I had a dream last night where I was sweating you and someone else from POG (but I forget who) playing 400nl.

clearly a sign imo.

fyi guys im playing 200nl now. We will see if i decide to stay there.

Same rules here but for slightly different reasons. There's a state monopoly on gambling so no competition is allowed (lol!) thus they advertise as "poker schools"

OMG yes, run good one time. Staked or your own money?

Did you just skip 100NL? (or did I somehow miss you moving up from 50NL)

If you table select and can handle agression the difference between 100NL and 200NL is neglectable anyways.

yeah **** 100nl im skipping that ****


ive played about 2k hands so far at 200nl...up about 3 buyins but theres some definite changes i have to make to my game. People make better river decisions than people do at 50nl. People also are stacking off pre a decent amount lighter in some situations. Im going to give this 30k hands and see if its worth it.

Not my first ever, but my first in a good while

Where are you playing, stars?

yeah

It was aimed at Mdorand actually, since I played a fair bit 1-2 there but I found the gap from 100NL to be quite big there (then again I was an idiot and didn't table select which I probably should have done)

I think when you just start out at 200NL you can play pretty nitty pre and still get payed off a decent amount. There's really no need to lag it up just throw in some 3bets here and there and squeeze in decent spots. I'm still convinced that you could get away without ever 4betting light.

Yeah this is key. The regs are a lot better on average at 200 compared to 100 but the drooler-pool isn't all that different.
Even if they aren't better they are at least more aggro which is kinda hard to adapt to when you're not used to it and most importantly agressive play can lead to tilt. I think that's the most underappreciated insight when moving up. It's a lot easier to tilt (not monkeytilt but subconcious tilt)

how then do you respond to 3betting?
i feel like responding to a 3bet is where i spew the most money by far, and that's at 50NL where the light 3 betting is presumably less of an issue.

Last paragraph is really spot on, I'm glad I'm not playing with decent regs anymore. I spewed quite alot in 3bet pots when I moved up on stars

Kokiri, pretty sure you just give 3bets respect for ak/qq+ at 50NL atleast that seemed to be the theme last time I played that (that was admittedly last spring)

Just learn to fold and ignore the ego aspects of being "owned". I mean noone admits it but most people don't like the feeling of getting 3bet due to feeling "owned" imo.
There's no single cure but start calling 3 bets a lot more in position and "play poker", make your opening size smaller in LP/bigger in EP.
change your betsizing in 3bet pots (usually half pot bets are fine).

OOP I usually fold unless I really have a good read on the villain and know that he's light enough often enough. But really you'll make enough profit from getting it in ahead vs light 3bettors pre OOP who fell "committed".

Of course it all depends, I mean the way I usually play I kinda need to 4bet a bunch but by and large I'd say at SSNL tight is right when it comes to 3bets and handling them.

If I get 3-bet by a random I assume its in Vader's range. If its a solid reg w/history and I'm in a steal position- its often a much wider range. If I have position I'll take a flop, regardless of what I chose to steal with (though presumably I would be tightening my steal range vs. a solid reg).

I've also started 3-betting myself A LOT more recently, as the 50NL players are horrendous in bloated pots- playing pretty much fit or fold- and yet never lay their hands down preflop.

Getting a feel for 3bet pots is pretty hard IMO. It's also costly to experiment if you hit a rough stretch.
I never 4bet in position and floated/raised flop a lot for like 50k hands just to experiment a little etc.
I mean it kinda sucks to not 4bet AK but then again you can raise/float a lot with at least two overs.

I also don't 3bet nearly as much as I used to OOP. I mainly do it in squeeze spots otherwise I've mixed in more calling and CRing flops (blind vs LP).
It's very dependant on table dynamics/image etc though but overall at lower limits I don't think "tight is right" is such a bad mantra. You'll give up some EV sure but you'll also tilt less (imo).
Switching tables is also very underrated. If you can't stand the aggro-level at a table at least concider switching. It's not defeat it's just smart money management.