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Originally Posted by TheDean1
I think you should relax for a moment and realize that I am not even claiming to be right. Just trying to share my pre-existing perspectives (which I acknowledged a million trillion times could easily be wrong) and consider those of others.
There's a lot of variance in everyone's underlying assumptions here; it would be much more productive if you calmly stated why you believe yours to be true instead of blasting those which don't immediately align, esp if it they are coming from a person who is willing to thoughtfully consider yours.
lol. nice try trying to imply that I'm all caught up in emotion typing frantically at my computer because omg dean is being a sexist. I am plenty calm. Surprisingly, this isn't the first time I've faced this argument. The male population have had a lot of people tell them that they are superior to women because they don't feel extreme emotion and they enjoy telling me this.
My underlying assumption is that emotion has a biological basis in both genders, the emotions they cause are different because there are different evolutionary roles in them (i.e, men are dominant, therefore feel competitive, women are the ones actually doing the reproducing so need prodding into spreading their legs).
I personally don't believe that men are innately more logical than women. There's like, many thousands of years of history when 99% of women were told they couldn't do anything more than cook and reproduce. There's still a lot of stigma around that women can't amount to more than men, and that probably has an underlying affect on womens abilities psychologically.
All the women in history who have managed to achieve something are those that are from affluent families with either indulgent fathers or understanding husbands. Considering that that is actually a really small % of the population of any one time, I consider it a miracle that there were
that many women who were good at specialized subjects, whatever subjects they were.
There's, at most, 100 years of history in our countries where women have actually had equal opportunities in terms of education. That's a ridicuously short amount of time. That's like my great grandmothers who couldn't do it. And if they got trained in the 10s (and not many were), then they'd only have been really at the peak of their career maybe 30 years later. Even when my mother was at university she was way way in the minority of gender, and that was in the 60s.
Currently, way over half of the trainee doctors in the UK are female, and those places are damn competitive. My math course is one of the best in the country and it's about 50/50. Even engineering has a 50/50 male/female Give women another 100 years and I think the stigma that women are significantly less logical than men would be greatly reduced, and it'd be a lot more even.