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06-11-2012 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
systo the idea of being early 20s and having someone say "you must make X dollars for me to want to be with you" is asinine
If I had to make $X for my wife to be with me, or if I had to make more money than her, we'd have divorced ages ago.

She has made more money than me since her second year out of college, I believe. In some years, her salary has been triple mine.
06-11-2012 , 11:58 AM
I mean if you're read is she was intentionally phrasing it in the most aspergery way possible because it's systo then OK

but posing it as an ultimatum definitely wouldn't work for me. ymmv
06-11-2012 , 12:06 PM
Love is not love which alters when it alteration finds.
06-11-2012 , 12:10 PM
damn i'm starting to support england again.
06-11-2012 , 12:10 PM
chemical inbalances yo
06-11-2012 , 12:10 PM
has the pub become relationship help source #1?

I feel like everytime I take a look at the last page, y'all are talking about relationships

Not that there is anything wrong with it. I imagine guys sitting at a bar, smoking and drinking beer and talking "my wife has so many problems and I have to fix them all!" "I totally understand you, mine is just the same" "And my girlfriend has so awful eccentric tastes wrt mattresses!" "That's terrible, here take another beer"
06-11-2012 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
chemical inbalances yo
Love or patriotism?
06-11-2012 , 12:12 PM
pub hasnt had a toast in a longass time
06-11-2012 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
So here are 2 different scenarios.

1.

The woman stayed at home raising children. once the youngest was like 6-7 she got a job working at a local gym. She got into super good shape and while she was def attractive before, now she had a smoking body and was legit hot. She hung around with trainers at the gym who were mostly 25-30 and lived pretty liberal lifestyles. They had stories of partying, etc. and it prolly reminded her of what it was like when she was around that age and sounded like fun. She became pretty liberal socially and would hang out with her daughter's friends when they came over (90% sure I smoked weed with this lady, def did with her daughter/friends in her presence).

She ended up hanging out with some of the people at the gym, and one particular trainer. Her and husband had some issues, interests were changing, pretty soon she was dating that trainer. She was a "chill" lady but she had become very self centered and seemed to care more about herself than her family, and was very out of touch with reality.

2.

This lady was always smoking. Similar situation but without the 25 year old (at least that I know). She raised her kids and then around age 7-8 her and her husband split up. I think the rumor was she had a much younger bf but I couldn't confirm 100%, but since she was always hot it seemed like she handled things a little more "privately" and less of a trainwreck way, vs. the lady that was hot later in life and it changed her completely.
haha wow, i can def see 1 happening. feeling like you're missing out on something when you have already committed to a lifetime without it seems like it would be the worst, which is one of the main reasons why i decided at a young age that i'm not jumping into marriage.

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Originally Posted by well named
systo the idea of being early 20s and having someone say "you must make X dollars for me to want to be with you" is asinine

seriously run away fast

I didn't really read anything else but I'm pretty sure that's 100% correct read

love needs to be a little more flexible, and about serving each other, not just her getting to check off her list
the read is going to be 100% correct for you but maybe not systo, because you seem to have the personality type that has an easier time maintaining a relationship. no offense to systo but people with big egos tend to have a much more difficult time sustaining relationships, and systo has a rather ginormous one.

you are extremely humble and down to earth, so you're going to naturally develop very strong + deep bonds with people. i'd imagine that a woman you're dating (i know you're married, getting a bit theoretical here) will be much moreso inclined to unconditionally settle down with you, whereas systo might need to make more concessions to counterbalance his ego.
06-11-2012 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Swiitch
PUB GAME:

I dealt roulette to two PoGGers last night (well, one was playing and the other watching).

Guess which two.

I will reveal when I get back from picking up my daughter
Alice and chyme
06-11-2012 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
i analyze all of my relationships with everybody to death and i do extremely well with them. thanks for your input, though!
You must be a girl.
06-11-2012 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
I doubt it.

Relationships are often one sided. Systolic is more committed to Erin than Erin is committed to Systolic, ergo she gets to call the shots in the relationship. It's pretty standard, and I think Systo's telling of the story sounded like it very likely reflected that of reality.
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
I'm going to stop you right here

SHOW. YOUR. WORK.

It's super common for people to feel that they are "right" for each other due to sex + spending time together. That's because this is inherently a special relationship, but just because your first or second serious one feels great (everybody's first serious relationship is always the bees' knees in their own mind at some point or another) that doesn't mean that she's the 1 out of 3 billion that you need to settle with for the rest of your life.

So if you really think that she's miles ahead of the next girl you'd end up with (mind you that you'll be more experienced and less mistake prone by your next relationship, so even if you're with a similarly good match the relationship itself will likely be overall better), you should be able to articulate reasons. And by reasons don't talk about why the GIRL is special, talk about why your RELATIONSHIP with the girl is special.

What is it about her personality that meshes with yours better than anybody else you have ever met?
What dynamics in your relationship are there that are lacking with other people?
What are the pitfalls of your relationship? Would you be worried that after 5, 10, 20, 30, etc years that these might find a way to submarine the whole operation?

You don't have to answer these here, but you gotta ask them to yourself. You don't have a great enough sample size of serious relationships to be pretty sure about anything imo.

And she is NOT pretty sure, she is pretty sure only given the condition that you get a well paying job. What happens if you get married and lose your job? Will she start window shopping for other men? What if you hate your new job and decide you want to pursue music, but she isn't OK with this and you are forced to basically work a **** job for a woman who isn't as lustrous as she used to be?

I'm not trying to tell you that it's the wrong decision, but the reason why there's a 50% ****ing divorce rate in this country is because people get married without considering why **** might fail. This is the rest of your ****ing life that you're talking about, and while divorce is technically an out it's a ****ty one and you don't want to leave that as a fallback plan.

So IMO answer these questions to yourself before diving headfirst into anything you might regret.
Okay, I would say that you are extrapolating unjustifiably, but you are correct in that I haven't thoroughly described the dynamics of our relationship. I didn't think anyone would care to read it, so I didn't post that.

Erin and I are absolutely perfect for each other, and its in a way that I will never be able to acutely describe.

We have been intimate in various ways, but we haven't actually had sex, so that element of your idea doesn't pertain.

If I had to describe the 'pitfalls' of our relationship from my perspective, it would be that Erin really overloads herself in work sometimes. She's a bit of a workaholic, and I think in some ways she wants everyone (including me) to work as much/as hard as she does.

From her perspective, she has told me what her pitfalls with regards to me are.

1) She doesn't like that I play poker (lolobv), and she thinks that its a sign that I am irresponsible with money.
2) She questions my work ethic since she hasn't seen me with a job since she met me.
3) She knows that I have a lot of student loan debt, and she feels like this will be a burden in the future if it isn't managed soon.

As I said before, Erin has 2 jobs and is a full time student. She takes out student loans to pay her tuition every semester and then uses her money she makes to pay the loan off over the duration of the semester. She's very fastidious and extremely organized.

As far as things about our relationship that are miles ahead:

1) We communicate about everything. She tells me if she is upset about something, she tells me the things that she is happy about, and vice versa.

2) We are both completely honest with each other about everything, good or bad.

3) We both want to be with each other whenever we can. Despite her crazy schedule, she makes it a point to be spend some time with me every single day, even if she just comes to my apartment for 10 minutes on her way home from work.

4) We are both forward thinking and share similar family values and ambitions.

5) Our respective families love the other person. Erin's dad has already given me the approval to ask her to marry me, and her sister thinks I am the best thing that has ever happened to her. My family already thinks of Erin as a daughter.

Those are just the first few that came up off the top of my head.
06-11-2012 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
Alice and chyme
Not poggers imo. #DeadToMe.
06-11-2012 , 12:28 PM
I probably couldn't be with someone that couldn't get that poker isn't just lolgamblegamble
06-11-2012 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk
I probably couldn't be with someone that couldn't get that poker isn't just lolgamblegamble
you'll never have hypothetical children if you keep rejecting hypothetical women on hypothetical grounds

Spoiler:
hypothetically
06-11-2012 , 12:31 PM
MY HYPOTHETICAL FAMILY IS MY OWN BUSINESS
06-11-2012 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
Not poggers imo. #DeadToMe.
alice is the sandy koufax of POG
06-11-2012 , 12:33 PM
i have so much free time now. what hobby should i pick up?
06-11-2012 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
alice is the sandy koufax of POG
alice is jewish?
06-11-2012 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
i have so much free time now. what hobby should i pick up?
werewolf
06-11-2012 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by amplify
alice is jewish?
and a pitcher too apparently
06-11-2012 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
i have so much free time now. what hobby should i pick up?
guitar
06-11-2012 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
i have so much free time now. what hobby should i pick up?
Human interaction
06-11-2012 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
i have so much free time now. what hobby should i pick up?
knitting ldo
06-11-2012 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk
werewolf


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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
guitar


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Originally Posted by gder
Human interaction

      
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