Is that mental instinct to dismiss ideas we disagree with before we even finish reading them or contemplating them something we should try to avoid? Is it even possible?

Maybe I'm the only one who does that. I do think of chips chat about big data from time to time as well.

Grand jury’s are inherently flawed in situations like this. In a grand jury only the prosecution presents evidence in a one sided show and tell where they can pick and choose what bits to present with no cross. in a situation where the DA doesn’t want to prosecute his own there’s noway a grand jury is ever going to see the information.

Not that preliminary hearings would be particularly better in these scenarios because they simply add in the defenses presence and cross examine, but the cops aren’t going to bring up how there are witnesses that also said they didn’t announce.

The system is set up to provide for no accountability on law enforcement it’s not a bug it’s a feature..

ETA- and a Mitch McConnell protege/appointee is never going to want to prosecute law enforcement. His biggest donor/base is the police union.

and to answer mets first question about the breonna taylor situation..

yes i believe the police were and are still lying. it's in their nature.

like someone said, if the body cams are released then i will believe police reports, if they aren't or there is no body cams, then their reports should never be treated as fact. they are simply one party telling their side of the story that they feel most benefits themselves.

cops shouldnt shoot people unless they are shot at first or have a reasonable cause to believe their life is in imminent danger

thats how most sensible people see it

you have this warped view that most cops are evil and not here to protect us, when i know cops and most cops are good people and try to protect their communities

Bird thinks that all cops are the bad ones and the good ones are the outliers when its the other way around

that all being said, it communities of color, there very well may be broken systems where bad cops get rewarded and those departments need to be REIMAGINED not abolished like they did in Camden.

traffic tickets is a good example. most traffic laws are there for safety reasons, and tickets are given to deter people from breaking the law

at times, certain police departments, or cops, may take advantage of the system ands give extra unnecesary tickets to make money, or budget, or a cop may write tickets for overtime, etc. there is obviously corruption

your solution would not be to stop the corruption or bad use of policiing.. it would be to abolish traffic laws because some police depts expolit them.

what about the reverse?

should civilians be able to shoot cops if they are shot at first or have reasonable cause to believe their life is in imminent danger?

This is not what I think. I think that cops exist, structurally, to protect private property and oppress the proletarian class. When you have a system where there is an oppressed MAJORITY (like feudalism and capitalism), where a small group of people lives off the exploitation of a large majority, you are going to need to use violence to maintain that system, because people will not submit to it willingly. That violence manifests itself in a lot of ways, one way it does so in capitalism is primarily the police.

Given that racism is a large part of the material conditions of capitalism, this usually involves enforcement of racist laws. Further it involves defending private property almost above all else, and criminalizing being poor.

This has nothing to do with the individual morality of cops, though I will say that often cops are scumbags, and that is not a coincidence.

So the guy who opened his car door to check on his kids was not a clean shoot? The guy who reached into his pocket to get the license that was requested of him? The woman in the hallway without a gun? The child in the park with a BB gun?

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Isn’t it legal to shoot people who enter your house in Kentucky anyways? Why aren’t we celebrating their 2A?

there are many cases where cops should absolutely be prosecuted master

your issue is with capitalism

your only solution is to end capitilism

in a capitalist society, let's say i agree that cops' main purpose is to protect private property (i think it is primarily to protect people themselves, but property is definitely included so i will play along"

there is nothing inherently evil about protecting property

the fact that you think there is explains why you want to abolish police

but in a capitalist society, we do need police to protect people and their property

Police are allowed to if they have a warrant tho.

and the man who shot at the police isn't being prosecuted

I'm sure you can produce loads of quotes of you saying so after each of those cases, right?

There are many cases. And this is one of them. Go ahead, say it. We wont be mad. I promise not to tell any of your friends who want to wipe your people off the face of the planet

And yet they aren't.

So now what should the oppressed do, give up and accept it?

well I don't think this and I've never said that. It's not about a moral judgement, its about understanding how a police force whose reason for existing is to protect private property will operate.

I think that when the police exist for the material reason to protect private property and enforce a class dictatorship, then the cops are always going to behave exactly the way they do now

which is terrorizing and killing poor people, and also often minorities, especially black people

Do you honestly believe that if they thought he was knowingly shooting at police that they wouldn’t be prosecuting him for that?

He didn’t know it was the police breaking down his door. He had every right to discharge his licensed firearm in his own home in a stand your ground state.

The police did not have the right to kill Breonna Taylor.

For someone who allegedly tries hard to be a good person you’re really ****ing bad at it, Mets.

how do you propose making that a thing?

if I decided to own a gun, the main motivation would be to protect myself from police

Make sure you don't get revenge killed!

best protection from police is to wear white face

this has been going on for generations

That would help, but really it's just minimizing interactions with police. It would help to be a woman, so long as you don't marry police.

That's a good line at the end of that tweet.

The domestic violence meme should be spread more if the goal is to turn people against police.