Sounds like the guy who dressed up as Hitler was fired. Cancel culture is real!

do you know what a strawman argument is?

You need to learn nuance.

You know who also met Obama? Fidel Castro.

There is tons of room between "some sort of radical" and "controlled pawn of the bourgeois"

if malcolm x was a teenage white girl they probably would have... i mean if his thing was the environment, instead of racism and oppression

it's apples and oranges

but you might be right. greta might be a tool of the oppressors. or she may become one, one day. but i doubt she is right now

and yeah for sure she isn't using guns and bombs, which might be a requirement for a true revolutionary

Club Filthy is for radicals.

radicals/lazy/idiot/cowards

Greta is like what...16 or something?

I am sure that rich and powerful people are doing whatever they can to co-opt/control her. And she probably just isn't mature to enough to tell them to go screw when they ask her to speak at Davos or whatever.

Not saying she is good or whatever, I just don't think it is a clear cut example of her being a tool of the rich yet.

lol Luckbox.

Greta is referenced on a page she has no part in creating or maintaining

"GrEtA hAs HeR oWn PaGe WiTh WeF"

She met Obama?? Holy ****, what a nightmare!

Lol at you. What does her creating or not creating the page have to do with the point I'm making?

Clearly you have difficulties thinking so I'll try to explain it in simple terms-- when the ruling class promotes people they do it because those people are acting in the interest of the ruling class. Now go back to wherever you came from.

it is not that simple

and it feels like you ignored all those posts I made about nuance

as complex as capitalism is and centuries of growth and evolution, the idea that you think that for the rich it is as simple as just "promote people acting in our interests" is pretty surprising

You said I needed to learn nuance while in the exact same post you compared Obama meeting Greta with Obama meeting Castro-- there is a lot of irony there

And really yes in this instance it really is that simple.

Greta was named Time's Person of the Year for 2019. This one really isn't hard.

The issue is that you don't really have a conception of the rich...you treat someone making 1mm per year the same as you would treat the richest people in the world. Everything for you is the "mechanisms of capital" and nothing more.

We've had this discussion many times of course

It has everything to do with it, lol. It's not her website. I have no problems thinking, and refraining from insulting people as well. Can you make a point without doing so? Smart guy like you should be able to.

I appreciate you trying to educate me, but I promise the simplicity of your position does nothing to enhance my understanding. It's a little soundbite meant for others who agree with you to feel good about themselves.

Makes it easy to explain away multiple levels of nuance

Lol

You lol'd at me and did the upper case lower case stuff. I'm going to insult you back when you post like that.

Lol at you some more really. If you want to be taken seriously and not insulted back, try to not post like a complete douchebag.

Yeah I don't think I'm able to help you.

"It doesn't matter that Greta was named Time's Person of the Year because Greta doesn't control Time Magazine.

She didn't choose to be the person of the year, someone else chose that for her"

Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds TBob?

Why did you think you could "help" anybody? That's strange.

And no, I don't think in terms like that. That's ridiculous, this is insane, etc, etc. I don't know anything about how that selection process works. So I don't have a strong opinion. Why don't you explain that to me, if you really want to "help". Yelling at someone because they disagree with you and then bringing up tangential anecdotes isn't going to convince anybody. You can't help me because you're not actually doing anything. Explain to me why her being on a website she is not in control of makes her bad. That in and of itself means absolutely nothing. They could put your name and picture up there tomorrow and what would that mean? Absolutely nothing. You might say, well she did things in line with their agenda etc etc, and that would at least be some attempt at explaining your position. Can you try for me?

I'm on a super rickety bus on a dirt road so I'll have to get back to you later but I feel like you must be trolling.

I am not trolling at all.

I can't hear what's in your head, and human beings come to different conclusions with the same information. I don't understand what you don't get. Can you not explain your position? Is that it?

luckbox,

me and tbob somehow got off on the wrong foot when we first met. we blocked each other! lol

but he is a great guy! really. he wrote a song about it. and it makes me happy every time i hear it!