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05-03-2022 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark_K
Man what a twist. Trump may go down in history and known as the President that crafted a Supreme Court that enabled the overturning of RvW...
It has been quite the day on twitter and I feel bad for anyone who enjoys stupid people behaving badly online that has been unable to partake. Truly delightful.

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And good news Mark, you may soon be paying more tax as a consequence:

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In his first campaign video of 2022, released Monday, Newsom strolls through a redwood forest while pledging to “always lead the California way.”

One prong of that plan: Making California a “sanctuary” for out-of-state patients seeking abortion, including by helping cover the cost of the procedure, transportation, lodging, child care, food and lost wages. At the local level, two Santa Clara County supervisors are seeking $3 million to help out-of-state women access abortion care.
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05-03-2022 , 04:35 PM
He is one of the few orators that causes me to cringe in pain. His cadence and condescending tone are torture.

Kamala Harris is another one but she just sounds like a kindergarten teacher.
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05-03-2022 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
I haven't quite decided if this leak was desperation or if it's part of a longer range coordinated plan. Tend to lean toward the former given how consistently the dems have been outmaneuvered, but there are some lefty interest groups that have shown the ability to think more than one step ahead.
You think the leak was from the "liberal" side? I very much think the opposite. I'd say Thomas is the favorite, followed closely by Alito.
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05-03-2022 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
You think the leak was from the "liberal" side? I very much think the opposite. I'd say Thomas is the favorite, followed closely by Alito.
Yeah, I've got it at least 70/30 being a clerk for one of the liberal justices. The "response" last night was too well orchestrated imo.

I've read the theory that someone on the right may have done it to keep the conservative justices in line, the problem with that is I don't see any realistic chance that Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, Coney Barrett and Gorsuch would waver if it was kept in house. Roberts is a wild card but they don't need him for a 5-4 decision.

Haven't seen any other plausible theories as to why someone on the conservative side would leak it, but I'd certainly be interested to hear them.
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05-03-2022 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
Haven't seen any other plausible theories as to why someone on the conservative side would leak it, but I'd certainly be interested to hear them.
Thread that says it better than I would:

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05-03-2022 , 10:32 PM
Thanks. Interesting read but I didn’t find it particularly persuasive.
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05-03-2022 , 10:40 PM
I'm going to go with the answer to 99 out of 100 questions, money.
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05-03-2022 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
Well you know the economy, Covid policies and Ukraine weren’t doing much for the Democrats in the polls, student loan forgiveness not looking like it’s going to buy too many new votes so it’s time to go to the ol’ reliable, base stirring cause #1: Protecting abortion.

Just another political power play.

Can’t wait for more yapping about nuking the fillibuster. Which would blow up so spectacularly that Moscow Mitch might even let it happen.
economy - everyone is flush with cash

covid policies - what covid? we all got shots and omicron and now nobody cares

ukraine - lol russia; get wrekt by a C power


democrats?

[ ] student loan forgiveness - apparently he's so far committed only to capping forgiveness, after hiding the fact that he was able to do forgiveness at all for what like a year and a half?


kinda also gotta lol at "protecting abortion" being the rallying cry for democrats. "pro life" is the only glue holding the right wing together.

Last edited by Ian_Warwulf; 05-03-2022 at 11:35 PM.
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05-03-2022 , 11:31 PM
look, I'm all for a woman's right to choose

but the entire "Substantive Due Process" thing is specious af

like, I'm happy to limit government overreach, but let's please write our laws down, you know?
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05-03-2022 , 11:33 PM
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"pro life" is the only glue holding the right wing together.
besides quote-unquote socialism, but I think most of them know that that isn't really real
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05-03-2022 , 11:47 PM
greed is what is holding the right wing together

and throw in some racism
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05-04-2022 , 12:58 AM
Geez, Filthy.

That's terrible garbage.
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05-04-2022 , 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Doctor Zeus
What's a heat vampire
Here:

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I use the term ‘heat vampire’ as a metaphor for a kind of public figure that stakes a position on the left-most edges of permissible opinion so as to neutralize harder, more authentic lefts in the same zone. Heat vampires are distinguished by a clear eyed, even radical, assessment of all that’s wrong in the world coexisting with acquiescence in oligarch-approved methods for putting things right, no matter how often and resoundingly these methods fail. So constituted, heat vampire liberals act as role models of acquiescence for the rest of us, reconciling things that aren’t logically reconcilable, successfully wrestling themselves into compliance with status quo fundamentals while bemoaning the particulars. All the so-called harder lefts inside the margins of U.S. political discourse are heat vampires
Happy to explain further if that doesn’t make sense
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05-04-2022 , 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ian_Warwulf
economy - everyone is flush with cash

covid policies - what covid? we all got shots and omicron and now nobody cares

ukraine - lol russia; get wrekt by a C power


democrats?

[ ] student loan forgiveness - apparently he's so far committed only to capping forgiveness, after hiding the fact that he was able to do forgiveness at all for what like a year and a half?


kinda also gotta lol at "protecting abortion" being the rallying cry for democrats. "pro life" is the only glue holding the right wing together.
Can’t even tell what level of irony you are operating on anymore

Like this couldn’t possibly have been a serious post, right?
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05-04-2022 , 02:46 AM
The Supreme Court, as a concept, is so ****ing stupid
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05-04-2022 , 08:26 AM
we tolerate posts like this

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
Can’t even tell what level of irony you are operating on anymore

Like this couldn’t possibly have been a serious post, right?
so we can grow from posts like this

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
The Supreme Court, as a concept, is so ****ing stupid
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05-04-2022 , 10:09 AM
We need more tribunals
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05-05-2022 , 01:49 AM
Senate, congress, Robert's clerk
And ****ing scotus, how does it work?
I don't want to talk to a crypto fascist
Yall mother ****ers be lyin and gettin me pissed
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05-05-2022 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Doctor Zeus
What's a heat vampire
It's a crappy term for gatekeeper
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05-06-2022 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
It's a crappy term for gatekeeper
nope
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05-07-2022 , 02:23 AM
Capitalism calls on human societies to embark on a ceaseless and futile quest for money and goods. This quest perpetuates a culture dominated by guilt, a sense of inadequacy and self-loathing. It enslaves nearly all its adherents through wages, subservience to the commodity culture and debt peonage

paraphrased quote of walter benjamin

am i wrong to think that like 80% of humans agree with this?
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05-07-2022 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
Capitalism calls on human societies to embark on a ceaseless and futile quest for money and goods. This quest perpetuates a culture dominated by guilt, a sense of inadequacy and self-loathing. It enslaves nearly all its adherents through wages, subservience to the commodity culture and debt peonage

paraphrased quote of walter benjamin

am i wrong to think that like 80% of humans agree with this?

I’m going with yes you are wrong, though that is rather speculative given my lack of personal experience with the thoughts of humans in 80% of the world’s countries.

The idea of a culture dominated by guilt, a sense of inadequacy and self-loathing is the dubious part, seems like projecting the culture of a subset of Americans onto the rest of the capitalist world.
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05-07-2022 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
I’m going with yes you are wrong, though that is rather speculative given my lack of personal experience with the thoughts of humans in 80% of the world’s countries.

The idea of a culture dominated by guilt, a sense of inadequacy and self-loathing is the dubious part, seems like projecting the culture of a subset of Americans onto the rest of the capitalist world.
are you saying that basically all of america is a sub set that feels this way, or that there is a sub set within america that feels this way?

maybe it's just my bubble, but it seems like most people feel this way, not that they dwell on it all the time. but if they stop and think about it, then they feel this way.

most people work a job they don't enjoy, and for far less pay than they see others getting... cuz we see celebs etc...

also basically all workers are exploited, and sense it on some level. i mean the bosses are paying workers less than the workers produce so the bosses can keep a % for themselves.

the whole industry of advertising is to make us feel inadequate, and we are bombarded with more ads every day than we can even count

also feels bad to be contributing to the destruction of the planet, which we all are.
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05-07-2022 , 11:42 AM
Quest makes it sound quite romantic. Life is a ceaseless and futile quest in some regards.
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05-07-2022 , 12:32 PM
i think it's translated from german, so "quest" might not express what he was saying
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