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10-23-2021 , 01:40 PM

#10851

Birdman10687

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Originally Posted by Mark_K

Correct because that anecdotal agrees with what I see everywhere else.

do you know what anecdotal evidence is?

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10-24-2021 , 09:54 AM

#10852

pwnsall

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What's the deal with this fauci research story/making corona worse?

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10-24-2021 , 12:08 PM

#10853

filthyvermin

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https://soundcloud.com/empire-files/...runs-hollywood

podcast about how hollywood is a tool for usa empire propaganda.

if the info on there is correct, it's even worse than i thought

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10-24-2021 , 12:16 PM

#10854

filthyvermin

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https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0835243/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

imdb page for the top military advisor to these films and shows. this guy has some huge credits on his page

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10-24-2021 , 12:21 PM

#10855

filthyvermin

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they said usa military was totally "crimson tide", which is a great movie btw, but that was the lone exception in modern big budget movies

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10-24-2021 , 07:16 PM

#10856

NeedMoreManasi

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Originally Posted by filthyvermin

$15 an hour in orange county is horrible

her phone costs about 60 hours

rent is 100-200 hours

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

$15/hour is $1/hour more than minimum wage in California, correct?

I was under the impression it was the grandmother who has all these job offers which just made me chuckle at like social security income + a greater-than-minimum-wage job and that speaks pretty poorly to the economy

But after reading the responses I realize where I was wrong

lolMark

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10-25-2021 , 10:32 AM

#10857

bsball8806

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also like do these people do the math on what $15/hour comes out to annually?

15*40*50 (this is literally the most generous calculation possible, assuming wherever you work actually staffs you full time) = $30,000 <- yeah this is definitely not even close to enough money to live pretty much anywhere, let alone in California

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10-25-2021 , 02:17 PM

#10858

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

if we can’t rely on one anecdotal account by internet user Mark_K

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Originally Posted by Mark_K

Correct because that anecdotal agrees with what I see everywhere else.

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

do you know what anecdotal evidence is?

sorry Mark, did you see this? Because it feels like you may not understand what anecdotal evidence is...

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Anecdotal evidence is a factual claim relying only on personal observation, collected in a casual or non-systematic manner.

Both of the things you have presented fall squarely in the category of "anecdotal evidence". And even compared against other forms of anecdotal evidence, what you have offered has severe limitations.

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10-25-2021 , 03:45 PM

#10859

Booker Wolfbox

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Tenants 1, evil greedy rich landlord 0

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10-25-2021 , 04:03 PM

#10860

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doing gods work booker

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10-25-2021 , 04:03 PM

#10861

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if there is one thing we know, it's that people that own property really haven't gotten a fair shake in this country

glad we have someone to finally stand up for them and give them a voice

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10-25-2021 , 04:30 PM

#10862

pwnsall

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Whom

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10-25-2021 , 04:39 PM

#10863

Booker Wolfbox

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Focus, people. The enemy in this case is NPR, trying to create sympathy for an exploitative property owner. Who is clearly deserving of none because private property is wrong.

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10-25-2021 , 08:29 PM

#10864

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I mean, I don't want to be unsympathetic, but this is an odd story:

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Bajaj and Lotia aren't big corporate landlords with massive real estate holdings. They're immigrants from Mumbai, India, who bought a small rundown building with four units nearly 10 years ago. They were starting a family and couldn't afford a traditional single-family house. So they live in one apartment and rent out the others.

They couldn't afford a single family home so they bought a 4-plex?

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10-25-2021 , 09:07 PM

#10865

filthyvermin

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didn't read the article but sounds like they've been collecting rent from 3 families for 10 years while their investment appreciates

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10-26-2021 , 06:58 PM

#10866

NeedMoreManasi

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**** landlords amirite

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10-26-2021 , 07:18 PM

#10867

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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader

They couldn't afford a single family home so they bought a 4-plex?

They could presumably count the rents for income purposes when qualifying for a mortgage, and a 4-plex generally isn't anywhere close to 4x the cost of a single family home (probably b/c the units in a 4-plex are going to be much smaller in most cases). It's been a while since I bought a multi-family but iirc the rules were pretty borrower friendly for up to 4 units.

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10-26-2021 , 07:20 PM

#10868

Booker Wolfbox

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Originally Posted by NeedMoreManasi

**** landlords amirite

That's the spirit!

In related news, St. Paul MN is likely to pass about the most restrictive rent control ordinance in the country. Virtually no exceptions including new construction.

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10-26-2021 , 08:49 PM

#10869

pwnsall

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I mean obviously **** landlords. Kinda weird article though

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10-26-2021 , 09:07 PM

#10870

Birdman10687

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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox

are you just pointing out that they used poor people to subsidize their mortgage?

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10-26-2021 , 09:10 PM

#10871

filthyvermin

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if you're poor, you have to give most of your income to landlords who do nothing. your choice is that, or live on the street.

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10-26-2021 , 09:15 PM

#10872

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I just can't believe what kind of headspace you need to be in to seriously feel sympathy for landlords because you read an article about some tenants that took a landlord's refrigerator lmao.

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10-26-2021 , 10:02 PM

#10873

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

are you just pointing out that they used poor people to subsidize their mortgage?

I was explaining something that wasn’t clear to VR. No more, no less.

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10-26-2021 , 10:04 PM

#10874

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

I just can't believe what kind of headspace you need to be in to seriously feel sympathy for landlords because you read an article about some tenants that took a landlord's refrigerator lmao.

Who is feeling sympathy for landlords other than the toolbox at NPR that authorized that article?