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nothing newer than machine era politicians of the 19th and early 20th century stuff is in that article. there is one modern mention of some double registrations in st louis, but no allegation of fraud.

what are we even talking about..

that article is just fearmongering pro voter ID stuff.. lol

We're talking about fraud with you alleging that it doesn't happen and I'm trying to figure out why you believe that US elections are so sacrosanct.

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11-04-2020 , 02:46 PM

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Birdman I was kinda wondering what do you think the odds are that in ~30 years you are the 2050 equivalent of bernie sanders. Or asked another way what are the odds the constant barrage of liberal propoganda, or whatever you'd call it, turns you into a democratic socialist.

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11-04-2020 , 02:46 PM

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ya they have same day registration or whatever, but still really high turnout. its cool, dems cheat, not surprising, i factored that into the bet and if it the election is over and we have a concession/biden in office or whatever, books grade bets, no problem paying out a loss to cheating politicians, lost plenty of bets to crooked refs

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11-04-2020 , 02:48 PM

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We're talking about fraud with you alleging that it doesn't happen and I'm trying to figure out why you believe that US elections are so sacrosanct.

i just dont believe there are shadowy deepstaters out there fixing them.

sure there is interference from countries specifically russia through spending money and disseminating and elevating propaganda, but there isn't some deep state acting against the will of donald trump and co.

it simply would be too big of a conspiracy to exist, too many people required, and humans aren't good at secrets, so we would undoubtedly have some evidence of past or current examples.

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11-04-2020 , 02:49 PM

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Personally the strongest pulls for me towards something like democratic socialism is "tribalism". So maybe it will just be about who we associate with.

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11-04-2020 , 02:55 PM

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unlikely

i've already weathered that storm and come out the other side

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11-04-2020 , 02:56 PM

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Tbf you don't believe that shadowy figures exist at all. Obviously they then couldn't be involved in election rigging.

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11-04-2020 , 02:57 PM

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2) Here are the raw numbers:

At 3 AM, Trump was leading WI by 4.1%, with 91% of the vote counted.

Biden: 1,371,553
Trump: 1,490,870

total: 2,862,423 /.91 = 3,145,055 votes or 283,631 outstanding.

10 AM count:
Biden: 1,630,337
Trump: 1,609,640

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11-04-2020 , 02:57 PM

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unlikely

i've already weathered that storm and come out the other side

It would be impossible for you.

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11-04-2020 , 02:58 PM

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unlikely

i've already weathered that storm and come out the other side

what storm?

is there any evidence or credible argument for capitalism's viability?

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11-04-2020 , 02:59 PM

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maybe pwnsall was right.. what is "vote fraud"

is it "vote fraud" that the usps failed to deliver double digit % of ballots in key areas? like 18% in atlanta, and 27% in south florida? with margins large enough to possibly cost both states.

or is that just the usps struggling under a massive amount of work?

is it "vote fraud" for republican politicians to suppress the **** out of voting in minority areas or for brian kemp to run his own election, or is it just politics?

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11-04-2020 , 03:00 PM

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Susan Collins's opponent conceded, so Rs are almost a lock to keep the senate.

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11-04-2020 , 03:02 PM

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what storm?

is there any evidence or credible argument for capitalism's viability?

No. I was just referring to the barrage of capitalist propaganda everyone in this country experiences. I weathered it growing up and wound up where I am. I don't see that same propaganda bringing me back to thinking like a liberal.

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11-04-2020 , 03:05 PM

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maybe pwnsall was right.. what is "vote fraud"

Can define it as manipulating vote totals-- either through fraudulent ballots, eliminating votes, changing votes, stuff about fractional voting from electronic machines, not properly counting votes, etc.

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11-04-2020 , 03:06 PM

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k. my argument stands. show me an actual statistical relevant example of it, or admit it doesn't exist.

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11-04-2020 , 03:10 PM

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k. my argument stands. show me an actual statistical relevant example of it, or admit it doesn't exist.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...d9U1NCGk3gS_Rb

Go to the section "a brief history of vote rigging" and start there.

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11-04-2020 , 03:10 PM

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Just a reminder as we are in the thick of an American election, how much better things are run in CubaPractically everywhere

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11-04-2020 , 03:11 PM

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Good stuff..

Lol already taken down. You fall for the stupidest ****

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11-04-2020 , 03:14 PM

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11-04-2020 , 03:17 PM

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https://twitter.com/MarieAnnUK/statu...527994888?s=19

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11-04-2020 , 03:24 PM

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Not much related really but as I was looking up random numbers Cuba was up there in prisoners per capita. Still a decent bit lower than usa.

does this count the usa prison in guantanamo bay?

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11-04-2020 , 03:27 PM

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k. my argument stands. show me an actual statistical relevant example of it, or admit it doesn't exist.

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00211.htm

The Voulosia county stuff from 2000 in Florida is interesting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...-8bed5ff6b19f/
for the wapo article

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11-04-2020 , 03:27 PM

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No clue or if that's a real question

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11-04-2020 , 03:27 PM

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https://twitter.com/StephenMangan/st...117832192?s=19

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11-04-2020 , 03:28 PM

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my other question would be, is this hypothetical "vote fraud" a bigger issue/more deserving of attention than the very REAL legitimate issue of rampant republican voter suppression and why?

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