Execute the dishonest ones?

In a conversation about the sanctity of life, you want to lunch all liars?

We could try paying them to not lie. There are various options.

who is "we"? they are currently being paid a handsome sum TO lie by people richer than anyone else

do a remake of that jim carey movie where is a lawyer and gets hit with a magic spell where he has to tell the truth. but make it all media people get hit with the magic spell and have to tell the truth

i like when voldemort is a kid and he says "tell. the. truth."

Liar Liar

what a classic

I read xnerds post about her aunts murderers getting killed as vaguely celebratory but I must have misinterpreted and it was more informative.

I liked zero dark thirty.

that ****ing pos tilted me so ****ing hard! omfg!

i hate jessica chastain forever, no matter what she does. every time i see her in a movie or poster or whatever, im filled with hate lol

This worker shortage is hurting me worse than Covid.

My Krispy Kreme is now closed on Monday's and Tuesday's. And the Rubio's in my local mall now closes after the lunch crowd.

The only Covid issue I had was the rationing of toilet paper. The pain is real!

LOL "worker shortage". Complete fiction.

Fun story if you haven't seen it:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...193423909.html

Cliffs:

• Guy applies to 60 jobs that "have trouble finding workers".
• Gets absolutely no response over half the time.
• Only gets 1 interview, and it was a bait and switch that advertised $10/hour and full-time but only offered $8.65 and part-time.

You said this before and I forgot to ask then - what, if anything, are you basing that on? I'm curious. Obviously you have the MSM reporting that says there is but who believes them ... still we're not to the point yet where the exact opposite position is obviously true.

Where I am there definitely appears to be a worker shortage. Advertised starting wages keep going up while the now hiring signs do not come down. I've talked to a couple business owners that not only have been unable to fill jobs, they haven't even been had applicants. As a result they've been cutting back open hours or outright closing some days.

It's especially pervasive in the restaurant business - I went down a commercial strip in the suburbs a few weeks back and literally every single chain restaurant had a now hiring sign. Every one. We stopped counting somewhere in the 20s because we couldn't find one that wasn't hiring.

It would make more sense to me if wages were low, but while the restaurants I saw were hiring when I was on vacation in South Carolina were offering $10-12/hr to start, around here it's rare to see less than $14, $15 is most common and I've seen $17-18. Two years ago $10 was a common restaurant starting wage.

I'm certainly open to being convinced that it's not real but my circumstantial experience doesn't agree.

that is low

iif min wage tracked productivity it'd be like 25 an hour, according to quick google

Irrelevant. Has nothing to do with labor being undervalued, which it is, unless you are of the opinion that labor should just refuse to work and starve until it's paid a fair wage. Also, the minimum wage doesn't track productivity and the wages on offer are far above the minimum wage. We also don't have California cost of living.

The question is why there was an adequate supply of unskilled (or minimally skilled) labor at $10/hr two years ago, and now there appears (to me anyway) to be an inadequate supply of the same labor for the same jobs at $15/hr. That's it. EB says that's not happening and I would like sources. I'll worry about the "why" later.

Even pro-capitalist outlets are calling BS on the worker shortage myth.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/20/b...vid-wages.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christi...h=626757046f26

Show me a place that is unable to find workers and I can almost guarantee that the pay sucks, the hours suck, and/or the working conditions suck (or that they actually don't want workers and are just using it as an excuse to get people accustomed to crappy service).

I just started a job where I am involved in hiring people.

Had an interview yesterday that went great but I told my boss that he needed to temper his own expectations. He said he was thrilled if people even show up for interviews, and of the 4 that have been scheduled recently only 2 showed up.

I hear supply shortages are a myth, too, or maybe that's the real myth.

Makes me wonder if it's more of a localized phenomenon. I mean, I read stuff like that Forbes article:

And it's not my experience at all. Wages for these low skill jobs are rising rapidly.

It's back under 4% here, where it was pre-pandemic. More places seem to be willing to hire on flexible schedules, hire felons, etc but I don't have data for that.

So if the pay is up 50% in gross terms (obv reduced somewhat by inflation) and the jobs are otherwise the same as they were pre-pandemic in terms of hours and working conditions, that looks like a (localized) shortage to me.

Southwest strike over mandate over?

Pretty sure I heard that Southwest backed down and isn't planning on firing people but that means I just filthy'd some headlines. Could be wrong.

Is it really though?

Or is it just advertising like "up to" $xx/hr?

The business owners you talk to that get no applicants: What's the job? Pay? Hours? Working conditions?

To be fair if it's reported a lot by media it's almost certainly overstated how real it is.

Yeah, it really is. I'm not factoring in off-shift bonuses and other stuff. These are legit full time we will pay you $15 a hour to start jobs. They're generally service jobs, lots of restaurant work. You know, the exact same jobs that were there two years ago.

I was talking to a guy who's a Subway franchisee the other day, he had just hired a kid at $15, kid quit his first day because Taco Bell offered him $18.

Anyway, I'm not interested in convincing you of anything, I was just curious if you had stuff that backed up your opinion since it was so certain.

So this kid wouldn't have left if it was $18?

That's not a worker shortage. That's just an owner not paying market wages.

If I go into that Subway, and say "I want a foot-long combo for $2", they will say no.

My response to that can't be "Well, I guess no one wants to sell sandwiches." But an analogous thing seems to be accepted with regards to workers and wages.

the casino i work at said it had a shortage of dealers. they hired a ton of new dealers. but later i was talking to a dealer, and they told me, there was no shortage, but the casino refused to hire any dealers full time.

so ****ed up

the casino also raised the prices on everything, and by a lot. food is more than double. and has way less workers, every single food server and cocktail waitress gone, and got rid of their player rewards which was $3 an hour for me