sorry, I have a covid-safe job right now, but I'm not enjoying the work, so this is a welcome diversion for me :/

Uh.

Nah he’s doing great.

You’re the one I’m actually appalled at.

Yeah I know.

That's because I think you're a monster.

I wonder if hand sanitizer will be standard outside bathrooms from now on. Lowering the "cost" to wash hands seems relevant. Also plenty of people are terrible at washing hands or would just fake it, anyway.

Maybe game sanitizer should just replace sinks.

Even without taking into account the fact that mets' job allows him to actually help many young people, presumably at least some of whom are disadvantaged, this sort of histrionic and unaware nonsense is a prima facie example of how unproductive, self-indulgent, and self-soothing this very particular type of navel gazing, endemic to reasonably educated, too online liberals, actually is. It rightly causes anyone that reads it to instantly realize that nothing you say warrants critical consideration, and this is coming from someone that agrees with the underlying substance of your politics far more than that of mets' politics, at least as both are presented in this thread.

I do actually think lolmets etc. has become a bit of a toxic memetic, uh, happening.

again name calling

so the do unto others motto for you is just to people that you like. anyone who has differing views is a monster and the golden rule doesn't apply

whatever helps you sleep at night

this

Mets engages in dangerous, uninformed, self centered rhetoric that is harmful to thousands of people, including those underpriveledged young people he purports to care about, for nothing more than his own selfish gains. He has been shown time and time and time again how his ignorance is not only incredibly uninformed, but also dangerous, and the only thing that serves to do is make him go away for a few days before reappearing to spout the same stupid bullshit out of his mouth hole over and over again.

Its monstrous, and its deliberate and I do not apologize in the slightest for thinking that the person who spouts monstrous views over and over again after being continually corrected and having numerous people attempt to educate him on why he is wrong is monstrous himself.

We are LONG passed the time where any sort of attempts at constructive dialogue with him is even partially fruitful.

This is what is left. I have no sympathy left for his idiocy

Nothing you do here is in good faith. You havent learned a single goddamn thing in the 15 miserable years you have posted here, and you are perfectly content with that.

You are cancerous, and it is nothing at all to do with your "views." It is with your continued inability to see even a single inch past your own stupid ****ing nose.

I doubt that's the motivation

It's true Mets doesn't argue in good faith, posts things without reading them that don't actually support his position, ignores questions he doesn't want to deal with, and just leaves when he's shown to be lying/incorrect.

That being said, and I know this makes me hypocritical from posts I've made before, but master's posts like that don't benefit anything at all. It's best just to not engage with Mets at all when he does his dishonest posting.

Monte's post was also particularly worthless, especially with the lol opening. Nothing he said has any relevance at all because it implies respectful dialogue has potential to bring value.

by the way, i dont teach seniors but i helped a bunch register in time for them to be able to vote for Joe Biden. because everyone should vote

and

lol master

My posts are rarely for me. If a single other person reads them and realizes that they need not waste time with Mets bullshit, then I'm happy.

i always argue in good faith

i like being challenged

i have change my opinions on many things. mostly from experience but some even from this thread

this is kind of like what is happening with van jones right now

and the next thing you know, #firevanjones was trending on facebook for saying that trump did some good

ignore the fact that van jones hates trump, will not vote for him, and encourages people to vote anyone but trump. but the fact that he says trump did some good for black people, now hes an enabler and needs to be shitcanned


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my favorite video of the week is chelsea handler telling 50 cent that she had to remind him that he is black and isnt allowed to vote for trump, and if he denounces trump she will **** him again!!!

and nobody thinks its wrong for chelsea to tell him is isnt allowed to vote for trump

50 cent then denoucnes trump (probably to get some) .. let's see if class Chelsea keeps her end of the bargain!

True. Pointing out Mets does good things when we all know he's a monster is lol. Also-- you are right that we should only have contentious and disrespectful dialogue with Monsters like Mets.

ive recently said in this thread ive become convinced that universal health care is probably the way to go

theres an example.

Mets,

You say you argue in good faith - how many times in this thread do you think you posted something and got corrected in that it didn't even say what you said it did or represented something that was found to be false with very little effort?

Chim criticizing chim?

sometimes i think im on the truman show

All you have to do Mets is denounce Israel and say you're voting Biden and it'll all go away. Really easy. You're already there with most everything else I think.

If you think that's what I was saying, and I assume you do based on thumbs upping that post, then I apologize for my inability to communicate effectively.

there are times where maybe i dont read a whole article
ive admitted when i was wrong
but i at least respond

you never criticized birdman who refuses to reply to anything that proves him wrong. -- who used to post anti-israel pro palestenian stuff but would never condemn palestenians. just for example

chim ive had discussioins with you, ive listened. i like hearing all sides. i watch rachel maddow for christ sake. i come here for that.

but the bias against me is hilarious. as dustin said, its like it's a crime to be civil or nice to me

anyhow ill take a break

enjoy your evening

Man, you're "but I at least respond" is just a lie, but you're right we've been down this path before. Last time I responded to your points and you ignored it, so you're right it's probably best we just drop it.

As far as the Bird stuff - I don't understand the middle east stuff well enough so I basically never comment on anything surrounding it. I've enjoyed your perspective (and Bird's) on that stuff, though.