Where he met with the fusion GPS connected lawyer who managed to get a last minute visa into the us?

Untoward for sure on both sides.

If Trump knew the Russia investigation is bogus then is it even wrong to try to obstruct it?

This is a serious question.

Pretty sure the answer is yes.

It's also a moot question since at the time he fired Comey it was already well established that multiple people in his campaign had committed crimes of one sort or another -- and his firing of Comey was an attempt to stop investigations into those activities.

Also something which mostly seems to go overlooked is that Trump himself wouldn't have had any way to be 100% sure about what each and every person in his campaign as done. I mean, his official story is that he barely even knew who most of these people were and had little direct involvement with them. ("Few people knew the young, low level volunteer named George.") Given how disorganized the campaign was it's doubtful that anyone at all had anything close to a full picture of what everyone else was doing, and in particular it would be reasonable for people to shield Trump from knowledge of any criminal activity for his own protection. Trump himself might be too dimwitted to think of that, and those around him may be too inept to actually achieve that goal -- but in answer to the question of whether it would be right or wrong to stop the investigation, it would clearly be wrong because there's no way for Trump to be certain of his conclusions. Mind you, that's not even going into the issue of full transparency, etc.

What are the crimes?

The Flynn lying to fbi is crap as you know.

Manafort had long left campaign and his stuff is from before. So there aren't even crimes.

Papadopolous?

The investigation is a witch hunt and it would be entirely rational for Trump to want to stop it.

His bigger mistake than firing Comey was not just firing him on day 1.

Flynn's stuff with Turkey is far worse than anything (publicly known) about Russia. He was literally working as an undisclosed foreign agent while serving as National Security Adviser.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n01/seymou...litary#onepass

This is a long read but will help to explain some of the dislike for Flynn within the establishment

Cliffs are the military was working with Russia to undermine Obama in Syria.

Dislike which vastly underestimated Flynn's corruption.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/11/p...e-9/index.html

Don jr, mama fort and kushner met russian lawyer who was promising anti Hillary material, on the 25th floor, one floor below trump’s own office (where he is), at 4pm. At 4;40pm trump tweets at Hillary about her emails.

Two days earlier, as the meeting was being finalised, trump was promising to deliver dirt on Hillary the following week.

Hmmmmmm.

What odds would you give that Trump popped in on the russian(s) or Donnie j walked them upstairs at the end of the meeting?

I’d rate the probable realities most to least

- shambolic trump campaign breaks the law unintentionally because they’re incompetent & dgaf. Then they have to scramble to cover it up.
- it’s rotten from the head of the fish down.
- several of trump’s people are guilty as **** but trump himself is oblivious
- Russia gonna Russia but trump and his circle had nothing to do with it
- trump is actually Julian assange in a fat suit.

Except that he had no reason to at that point - comey won him the election.

I don't think that was Comey but rather him facing something from within the fbi from pro-trump people there.

*and under your theory what caused Comey to turn or why did he do that?

Someone like Strzok?

No from some sort of pro-Trump contingent from within the fbi.

He didn’t turn, there’s nothing to explain if you don’t try to force things into dems and repubs. He’s got a weird sense of process and impartiality but he’s been consistent, I think.

There are lots of problems here.

The email investigation is run as a sham but then reopened days before the election and Comey has been consistent?

It doesn't add up.

So the Deep State at the FBI got Comey to help, against his will, to elect Trump? I think you've mixed up your talking points.

No I haven't you aren't listening

What is the alternate theory soah?

That Comey was just an honest guy who rose to the top of the fbi and then chose to throw the election for Trump of his own accord, only to find himself fired months later?

*that Comey’s hand was played for him makes a lot more sense than anything else.

I have never claimed that there are not good people at the fbi or that everyone in government agencies are controlled.

Mostly I think he's a guy who was thrown into a minefield and tried to navigate it as well as he could and in the process made no one happy.

The NY field office.

Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page
bragged that he was an adviser to the Kremlin
in a letter obtained by TIME

This came out tonight specifically to refute the idea that obtaining A FISA warrant on Carter Page required anything much other than Page's own resume.

I am assuming this letter was in the FISA warrant. Somehow this info didn't make it into the memo.

Hey I hope zurvan and Mia and mom and them are all living their best life.