I think there is as much (anecdotal) evidence for an increase in right-wing extremist group activity as there is for an increase in activity from antifa style groups. Certainly an uptick in ethno-nationalist sentiment as well. I haven't seen any empirical data on the former, but I think some data on the latter exists. Obviously you have to take news reporting with some grain of salt but I am comfortable enough saying the Trump era coincides with some renewed vigor among white supremacist groups just based on my own following of news over the last 18 months. YMMV

I doubt it. And of course the problem isn't that you argue against one more than the other. It's that you're arguing they're equivalent (and I'm being charitable there because I haven't actually heard any indication from you that Nazis are bad at all as long as they're nonviolent). The "type" qualifier here is also tell.

Your response to a guy shooting up his in-laws' church was to warn people of the slippery slope antifa is pushing us towards by sucker punching people wearing swastikas and writing essays on black genocide. Why?

My instinct is to say that we should combat the fascists with argument, but I think you're overconfident if you don't have some doubts about the topic.

And yeah like free speech, you should respect people's rights to express themselves, cool. But what valid reason is there for parading around doing sig heils and carrying a swastika flag? Again, I'm generally against the state trying to make judgement calls about what's ok and what's not, but it's pretty hard to come up with an interpretation of that which doesn't warrant some sort of fairly robust response, even if it is a robust peaceful response. The civil war is slipperier - because of its position within american history etc - but it's a bit of an ongoing poison at the heart of the USA.

Like "I'm carrying the nazi flag becuase I'm impressed at the way they built the autobahns, and I think they should be a model for the #MAGA infrastructure project".

I was attempting to be proactively self deprecating. Who knows why we do things or the honest sample! Can't really say without good data what's even true.

Nazis are bad though and very scary.

My friends dragged me to a comic con in 2007 to Washington D.C. At the event there was a 4chan panel. I never heard of the site, but my friends liked it and we went. While we were waiting in line, around 50-100 people started chanting sig heil and doing the nazi salute. Was weird(little uneasy at first), but I did not really mind and I did not think wow, I need to get this violent with some mace and bats.

ooh a mace good idea

You're Jewish. What the **** is wrong with you?

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If he doesn't get mad at random "Nazis", is he really Jewish? #identitypolitics

you guys should have seen when i was in charge of young children at the after school program. we'd have highly political scavanger hunts

1. find a picture of a man who owned slaves
2. find a piece of clothing that wasn't made by sweatshop labor(made in usa)
3. find out who is leading the war in iraq and afghanistan and also won the nobel peace prize
4. name someone who makes more than 10 times the money of all the teachers in the school put togehter

etc etc

sadly most of the kids thought number 4 was something to be admired

i was pretty shocked none of the parents ever complained.

Edit:

pwnsall
Volunteer Nazi Safety Advocate

Police have killed 1,001 people in the U.S. this year.

war on terror costs trillions, coming up on 20 years of war. turns out that random crazies on shooting sprees kill more people than terrorism.

and maybe slipping in the bathtub kills more people than terrorism too

and the war on terror probably causes more terrorism than it prevents

Spencer getting punched was hilarious

Wow. The "information" conveyed by this image is meaningless. The only purpose of something like this is to add fuel to the conflagration that is consuming the relationship between police and minorities.

Hardly even any black people in Scottsdale so if you kill one that really screws the stats.

Inshallah, more antifa soldiers will answer the call

i like you eholle, and i hope you don't end up hating me for my opinions on police.

i think it's a mistake to call it "the relationship between police and minorities". you might think this is a snowflake reaction to an accurate use of the word "relationship". but isn't it more accurate to describe the situation as police abusing minorities? sure "relationship" technically fits, but one group(the police) is empowered by the state to shoot people, beat people, arrest and fine people, and far too often abuses those powers.

to use the extreme example of nazis and jews, people don't really use the word "relationship" to describe the dynamic between the two groups.

speaking as a minority who has been abused by police, completely unjustifiably, i don't feel like i have a relationship with them at all. i live in terror of them. really. i feel a fear deep down inside every time i see a cop

Police are horrible but they are also being demonized by the ptb in order to stir up racial tensions so it's a tough spot

I fully support Governor Abbott's plan to get more tools of the revolution into the hands of antifa soldiers

I will not rest until actors/actresses are a protected class. THE HATE STOPS NOW.

Too late for you to do anything about it now.

Weird how all the shootings lately have been commited by liberals at country music concerts and churches, don't you think?

The NRA is working with antifa to commit genocide against conservatives

I think the swastika pretty clearly identifies whether one is a Nazi, and I think an ideology premised specifically on the necessity of racial violence is one that invites violence upon itself.

If contemporary white nationalists want to make their claims in peaceful terms, they are waving the wrong banner.

Yep