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Overreach of the thought police or "private" institutions doing what they want on the free market (as long as we agree with it)?

06-06-2017 , 12:22 PM

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amplify

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sounds like rich racist **** boys getting some privilege revoked

06-06-2017 , 01:12 PM

#71653

Monkey Banana

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Originally Posted by DiggertheDog

why?

Why not? They are more popular than Labour.

06-06-2017 , 01:13 PM

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Monkey Banana

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Originally Posted by pwnsall

Is there ever something in "ideology" that makes people "bad thing"? Doesn't seem like the kind of stuff you confirm by thinking about it.

The results of studies will depend on what you ascribe things. Was the nutter in Oregon who killed people that way because Christian? Obviously you don't think it's important if someone kills someone"in the name of Islam" and we should analyze the "real" reason for it.

I don't particularly think Muslims are more dangerous, but I could be wrong. Probably just be the cultural clash. I still maintain refugees and immigrants have no obvious right to be here and we don't even need a reason to keep them out.

You should probably ask the question the other way round. What would make them more dangerous?

06-06-2017 , 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pwnsall

Oh yeah I read about that a bit yesterday.

If Facebook put out a message of "get out and vote" to only potential zuck voters in 2020, would that be rigging? What about for Hillary in 2016?

Getting out the vote is not rigging the election.

I can see why a rightwinger might think it is though, given the effort their side puts into suppressing voting.

06-06-2017 , 01:27 PM

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That's seems like a misrepresentation of what that could be.

06-06-2017 , 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana

You should probably ask the question the other way round. What would make them more dangerous?

Further indoctrination into Islam obv.

06-06-2017 , 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by amplify

sounds like rich racist **** boys getting some privilege revoked

I enjoy shadenfreude as well.

06-06-2017 , 02:21 PM

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there's evidence that the Russians infested voting software and county voting offices with malware

meanwhile the winner's staff seems completely infiltrated by actors with compromising relations to Russia who all felt their relations were sketchy enough to expose themselves to felony charges by lying about them to Congress and the bureaucrats

but there's no proof that the election was rigged

06-06-2017 , 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pwnsall

Further indoctrination into Islam obv.

true islam, obv

06-06-2017 , 02:28 PM

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Myrologue

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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

hm, link?

06-06-2017 , 03:09 PM

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kokiri

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pwnsall

Would all the Brits (or others) be ok if a newly elected leader decided not to leave the EU?

All? Of course not.

If they just said 'ain't gunna happen'? No that would probably cause a great deal of unrest.

If tine passes and we find it hard/unfavourable to leave? Definite possibility albeit it the mle.

06-06-2017 , 03:47 PM

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I meant the one's here personal take.

Would you be happy if the elected officials ignored the vote?

06-06-2017 , 03:57 PM

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kokiri

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Ecstatic. Except for the social unrest. Ideally I'd like them to indulge in a slow inexorable process of failing to leave, in order to give the public time to forget.

06-06-2017 , 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DWetzel

Is this where I point out that clearly terrorists will just give up if a travel ban is enacted, and not say fly to Canada and then walk into Minnesota

So if we can't ban guns then we can't ban travel either

can't ban guns because of the 2nd amendment

president has plenary authority on matters of immigration and customs enforcement

06-06-2017 , 03:58 PM

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I know that the answer is "The constitution has no answer to that question" but let's say proof comes out that the Russian hacking did change votes, specifically in the three questionable states. Would there be a way to recall and revote? Any way at all?

06-06-2017 , 04:00 PM

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Could the Supreme Court declare the result unconstitutional? In japan that is at least a theoretical possibility, it's threatened to do it the n the past.

06-06-2017 , 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kokiri

Could the Supreme Court declare the result unconstitutional? In japan that is at least a theoretical possibility, it's threatened to do it the n the past.

I think more importantly, would it? And would Gorsuch be included in the vote?

06-06-2017 , 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by master3004

The only election that matters constitutionally is the vote of the Electoral College. So if the Russians had hacked THAT election, then I think the answer is actually yes.

06-06-2017 , 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by master3004

This, and not the usual blathering of the right, is what the Second Amendment is actually for.

06-06-2017 , 04:28 PM

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master3004

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Originally Posted by Zorkman

The only election that matters constitutionally is the vote of the Electoral College. So if the Russians had hacked THAT election, then I think the answer is actually yes.

Come the **** on. You know as well as I do that the votes of the electors are determined by the votes of the constituency. If their votes are tampered with so too are the votes of the electors

06-06-2017 , 04:31 PM

#71672

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Originally Posted by DWetzel

This, and not the usual blathering of the right, is what the Second Amendment is actually for.

More of the same rampaging screams for violence in response to the democratic will of the people, from multiple calls for the assassination of our president, now graduating to open calls for revolution.

Next time do a better job winning elections with better ideas. It's easier, more effective, and won't land you on the Secret Service's radar. Again.

06-06-2017 , 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by master3004

Come the **** on. You know as well as I do that the votes of the electors are determined by the votes of the constituency. If their votes are tampered with so too are the votes of the electors

What are you trying to prove, exactly? And don't give me this vague "that Russia tampered with the election." "Tamper" means whatever you want it to mean. And even if they did, why punish Trump for it?

06-06-2017 , 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Zorkman

lol u, this is the dumbest thing in a long list of really really stupid **** you've said on this topic

I dare you to call the Secret Service and record the conversation, including the part where they laugh you off the line.

(Assumably, "European hackers rigging the election because Trump is a racist terror to the free world" is on the list of better ideas you' have no problem with?)

06-06-2017 , 04:38 PM

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DWetzel

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Originally Posted by Zorkman

And even if they did, why punish Trump for it?

I take it back, this is the dumbest thing you've said on the topic.

"Hey guys, hack our election and I'll remove sanctions"

"OK cool"

"HEY WHY SHOULD I BE PUNISHED, THEY DID THE HACKING"

You're presumably not stupid enough to believe this, because one would have to be quite a moron to believe this, so it's clearly a terrible troll job by you.

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