In a state such as Ohio where I live, person to person firearm sales are not regulated, as it should be, but knowingly selling someone a gun who can't legally buy one could theoretically get you ten years.

One of the words in that post is incredibly important

i always thought ignorance was no defense for breaking the law

Not the word i was thinking of

apples and cucumbers

I'm a citizen.

They aren't.

I vet them. Or rather, my people who serve me vet them.

Are guns citizens?

How To Serve Man

This doesn't fall under any definition of the word "refute" I'm aware of.

Is this where I point out that clearly terrorists will just give up if a travel ban is enacted, and not say fly to Canada and then walk into Minnesota

So if we can't ban guns then we can't ban travel either

It's certainly possible to see it that way.

The "lib line" is that suggesting that there is something in Islam that makes people murderers is so facile and dumb that you have to wonder about the mental capacity of people who argue it.

The problem "libs" have is that the reasons for jihadism are too complex for our more lazy and stupid compatriots to look into so we are stuck with people who go "hurrr durrr Islam".

And we can feel stuck with them even if we're not fond of Islam or any other religion. I don't see Islam as a force for good at all but there's miles and miles from that to the sheer bull**** the far right peddles about it.

You'd have to ban them from travelling out of their mother's vag.

ISIS claims credit for every attack. It knows it's dealing with rubes.

You are ignoring the other conclusion that can be drawn here.

Details emerging on how the Russians rigged the election: https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/...2016-election/

Imagine, all you democracy lovers, your "say" is muted because Ivan is a ventroliquist. LOL.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...is-in-the-lead

Latest analysis from Claire Phipps
Tuesday 6 June
Monday’s Guardian/ICM poll was a flutter not a shift: Labour up one point to 34% since last week, but the Tories holding strong and stable (now they’ve awkwardly sidelined that slogan) on 45%. A Survation poll for ITV’s Good Morning Britain today has it at 42% v 40%, with the Tories down two points and Labour pepping up by three.
Another of those controversial YouGov modellings still has May short of the 326 seats she’d need for a majority: it pegs her on 305 MPs, with Corbyn garnering 268, the SNP 42 and Lib Dems 13.
So that’s clear.

My conclusions from what I read about the UK election:

1. Pro-brexit party - UKIP's collapse is the dominant feature of the swings in the polls. 18% support near the EU referendum is now less than 5%. Hence, the swing to both Labour and Tories in what appears to be 2:1 Labour's way. This appears to be a key reason for the closing in the gap.
2. How is it that Labour is not poised to take power? Contrary to what you might read elsewhere, I do not think it is a problem of Corbyn or his policies for Labour. I think that the key reason Labour will not sweep into power is a collapse in support in Scotland and to a lesser extent Wales. This process has been more than a decade in the making. Hypothetically, if you turned back the clock and added 30 of Labour's Scottish seats that the SNP has - even a socialist Corbyn would be running neck and neck with the Tories for Labour to hold the most seats in the Commons.
3. Recent election trends work on balance for the Tories. If you took a snapshot of Tory support amongst seniors (65+) it was at ~50% 20 years ago. Now, the Tories sit at 65% amongst seniors. As the most reliable voters, this is a key asset for the Tories. However, two things we ought to note about this fact. Whilst it is a strength it also illustrates how much harder it will be for the Tories to improve their election performance by appealing to this voter group given its very high starting point.
The other notable trend in UK elections has been the collapse of Labour in Scotland and a lesser extent Wales.

Taken together - this is why even with the collapse of UKIP neither Labour or the Tories appear poised to take power on Thursday. The Tories increasingly reliant upon older voters and some of the hardliner Brexiters that have abandoned UKIP have broad demographic problems of age and race. Labour appears to be increasingly an English party just like the Tories though they have less of a problem with age and ethnic diversity.

4. Turnout: So the strength of Tories is that the 'grey' vote is reliable and will turnout. This ultimately places a base under Tory support. There is one issue this campaign that has soften Tory support and that is the so-called dementia tax. This tax will disproportionately impact homeowners who, broadly support Tory more than Labour as the demographics suggest. Whilst the Tories have walked back from this policy, it is reasonable to think that this has added to uncertainty around the government and particularly May herself. With a collapse in English third parties - there appears to be two alternatives in this dynamic - a portion of those Tories stay at home or vote Labour. Hence, another reason why the Tory landslide predicted at the start has not transpired.
On the other side, Labour has the issue of getting younger voters to turn out. The open question is: were the young disappointed Remain voters dismayed or galvanized by the Brexit vote. Labour is counting on the latter and, interestingly, Corbyn's socialist policies may not have the same stigma with these voters as those that experienced 70s Britain.

The potential irony of the UK election.
PM May who entered the campaign unrivalled in her party and with a comfortable lead in the polls and the Commons may be forced into a negotiation for government even before she goes to Brussels to tackle the Germans. In contrast, Corbyn who was facing an inevitable challenge from within his party and a lukewarm support of Remain might need to cut a deal with the SNP on a second referendum to gain power before heading to wrestle the French.

Digger's guess: We will not know who will form government in the UK until July.

The Tories will win a comfortable majority.

why?

Kinda expecting the Tories to get about as many seats as they have now tbh, making the entire election an exercise in futility.

Is there ever something in "ideology" that makes people "bad thing"? Doesn't seem like the kind of stuff you confirm by thinking about it.

The results of studies will depend on what you ascribe things. Was the nutter in Oregon who killed people that way because Christian? Obviously you don't think it's important if someone kills someone"in the name of Islam" and we should analyze the "real" reason for it.

I don't particularly think Muslims are more dangerous, but I could be wrong. Probably just be the cultural clash. I still maintain refugees and immigrants have no obvious right to be here and we don't even need a reason to keep them out.

Would all the Brits (or others) be ok if a newly elected leader decided not to leave the EU?

Trump's "I won the election" defense to the allegations that his campaign staff was compromised by Russian ties now makes more sense.

The Intercept did a fantastic job outing their source on that one. Reality Winner goes in front of a judge Thursday. The document was printed and folded, only 6 people printed it, ez game.

Oh yeah I read about that a bit yesterday.

If Facebook put out a message of "get out and vote" to only potential zuck voters in 2020, would that be rigging? What about for Hillary in 2016?