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05-03-2017 , 10:52 PM

#69601

VarianceMinefield

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

meh the whole socialism capitalism thing is too much of a false dichotomy when it comes to globalism

Not really, globalism is just socialism taken to the world scale to me.

05-03-2017 , 10:58 PM

#69602

eyebooger

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Who's ready for AHCA 2.0: This Time It Will Pass?

05-03-2017 , 10:59 PM

#69603

Luckbox Inc

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield

Not really, globalism is just socialism taken to the world scale to me.

So is capitalism

05-03-2017 , 11:00 PM

#69604

amplify

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What even is anything.

05-03-2017 , 11:01 PM

#69605

Luckbox Inc

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Actually I mean to say that the same thing can be said of capitalism in regards to globalism

05-03-2017 , 11:20 PM

#69606

Sun Tzu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield

Also you can never know what anyone thinks about anything as fact. That is why it is an opinion what ideology someone subscribes to.

that's still not what opinion means

05-04-2017 , 12:26 AM

#69607

pwnsall

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Everyone obviously would have been like the people in the past if born then

05-04-2017 , 12:28 AM

#69608

pwnsall

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The real question is am I the real me and therefore deserve everything I get or could I be anyone and therefore deserve nothing

05-04-2017 , 12:45 AM

#69609

Sun Tzu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pwnsall

The real question is am I the real me and therefore deserve everything I get or could I be anyone and therefore deserve nothing

self is an illusion

05-04-2017 , 12:49 AM

#69610

DarkMagus

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we are all one being experiencing an infinite fractal in which the concept of "deserving something" is meaningless

05-04-2017 , 01:25 AM

#69611

pwnsall

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

self is an illusion

Probably. But what's that got to do with it.

05-04-2017 , 02:58 AM

#69612

kokiri

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eyebooger

Who's ready for AHCA 2.0: This Time It Will Pass?

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/

Not the image I was looking for but whatevers

05-04-2017 , 04:56 AM

#69613

Monkey Banana

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield

Not really, globalism is just socialism taken to the world scale to me.

Yes, because if there's one thing socialism is all about it's the virtual enslavement of workers and the enrichment of a small elite.

05-04-2017 , 04:58 AM

#69614

Monkey Banana

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

Actually I mean to say that the same thing can be said of capitalism in regards to globalism

You can say anything about anything. It doesn't mean you're going to be coherent though.

05-04-2017 , 04:59 AM

#69615

Luckbox Inc

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkey Banana

You can say anything about anything. It doesn't mean you're going to be coherent though.

05-04-2017 , 05:38 AM

#69616

Monkey Banana

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

Seriously, someone in this thread really did say that globalism is just socialism on a world scale. Also that Obama is obviously a Marxist and the only reason everything he's done supports capitalism is that he's hiding his true ideology.

Another person claims that fascism is socialism because socialism means the government in some way controls the economy.

So yes it seems you can say just about anything.

05-04-2017 , 06:24 AM

#69617

Sun Tzu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkey Banana

but these things are not wrong, they're just different opinions

05-04-2017 , 09:56 AM

#69618

iamnotawerewolf

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"what it means"

"what I mean by it"

One is useful for communication. One obstructs communication by inviting pointless dissent.

05-04-2017 , 10:00 AM

#69619

amplify

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Lexicography is a shifting target, and one informed by both descriptive and prescriptive temperaments.

05-04-2017 , 11:32 AM

#69620

Luckbox Inc

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkey Banana

Yes, because if there's one thing socialism is all about it's the virtual enslavement of workers and the enrichment of a small elite.

I'm curious to know what you think worldwide socialism would look like if not that?

05-04-2017 , 11:51 AM

#69621

Monkey Banana

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

"what it means"

"what I mean by it"

One is useful for communication. One obstructs communication by inviting pointless dissent.

Quite.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

I'm curious to know what you think worldwide socialism would look like if not that?

Enrichment of a small elite is not part of socialism and I don't really know why you'd think it is.

05-04-2017 , 11:51 AM

#69622

pwnsall

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Cats are dogs, women are men, up is down

05-04-2017 , 11:54 AM

#69623

Monkey Banana

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I mean, it's cute that you share IANAWW's misconception that socialism is somehow synonymous with government but you can't just describe everything a government does as "socialism" because you simply render the word useless. You end up in the ridiculous position of claiming that a man who strengthened the insurance model of health provision is a "socialist" or that any redistribution of income is "socialist" or that building roads is "socialist". Socialists may redistribute income and they may build roads but so might a lot of people.