I don't know Amp just exactly how far along you are in your conspiratorial type thinking......

But I'm pretty sure that you know that the main stream media is almost entirely propaganda/disinfo/bs. And when I say msm here I'm not just referring to the news-- but the movie studios, record labels-- just all the crass and dumbed down tv programming, etc etc

Well, why stop there. Why not also try and control, influence, buy, and create the 'critics' of the system as well?

Exactly! Chomsky is even more frustrating because he is a proven genius in the field of linguistics and so meticulously builds his arguments about the corruption of capitalism, but makes the fundamental mistake that capitalism itself is the problem, rather than government.

Naomi Klein is another one. And the makes of the Zeitgeist videos, who somehow decide that people should be forced to have no money and no markets whatsoever.

I haven't looked a ton into the Zeitgeist people-- but from what I understand they are connected to the ptb. Or at the very least some of the people given face time in the movies are connected to those who would attempt to shape a world religion.

Not sure if you know anything about Madame Blavatsky....I don't know myself.

I know that the mainstream media is entirely propaganda/disinfo/bs, but I do not think that this is necessarily the result of one massive conspiracy, unless it is conspiracy the media perpetrates upon itself. Or rather, I don't care very much. I know everything is corrupt and whether it is being manipulated by one group or another makes little difference to me.

I know some things. She started the Theosophical Society and raised or had raised Jiddu Krishnamurti for the purpose of being her religion's prophet and savior. But when Krishnamurti received control over the operations he immediately disbanded the whole thing and told everybody that they were deluding themselves. He then spent the rest of his life having fascinating dialogs with people all over the world about the nature of consciousness and how to investigate it.

Well then you know more than me. Interesting.

Well, apparently the Theosophical Society is connected to the PTB in various ways and that the makers of Zeitgeist are connected to the Theosophical Society, but as I said, this isn't anything that I've actually looked into, although I do believe that its true.

I talked a while back in this thread about Michael Gorbachev and what he's up to these days. One of the things is his foundation which funds a journal called Kosmos.

http://www.kosmosjournal.org/

It would appear that the Council of Rome is also involved, and they (as well as Gorbachev) have been heavily involved in pushing global warming propaganda.

This is what Krishnamurti said in a speech when he dissolved the thing.
Which is as much truth as you'll ever need.

Federal elections today.

go angula?

I agree with this with the exception that I think everyone seeking a different ethnic partner to overcome racism is in fact a quite rational "solution" to racism.

So idiot I suppose?

A huge majority of people think this including many people that would describe themselves as capitalists or even free market supporters. The only people who are strictly against regulation are Austrians (not exactly many). Most self described capitalists are very pro regulation when it comes to stuff like antitrust laws, aviation security or well police/military etc.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_278805.html
http://www.aier.org/ejw/archive/doc_...ent&format=raw

Just voted. 19 parties to chose from and 6 direct candidates for the district. We get two votes, one for a party and one for a Bundestag (pretty much the same deal as the US Congress) representative. Ask away if you have any questions about how the elections work here.

How close are they to the game Die Macher?

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1

I am willing to bang a lot of azn chicks if it helps fight racism.

banging is not enough, i think you have to reproduce.

In the words of Ernie Anastos, **** that.

Obama wins nobel peace price. My detailed comments:
rofl, lawl, lololol

wow.

pretty sure he's on a shortlist to be made a saint. The pope just has to find a way around the twin problems of his being muslim and not born in the us.

i was gonna bump this thread just to say lol but I see that clown has beaten me to it

i dont even know how to comment.
not at all

im honestly speechless

so obama winning the nobel peace prize made me wonder wtf the selection committee was thinking. I mean there had to be some argument for it. So I did some research on it. The Nobel Peace Prize is given "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses".

So there is an argument that he did work to improve fraternity between nations (though a large part of this is derived from the fact that he is not bush). But its a little premature for anything else.

I'm going to remain hopeful that he will eventually earn the prize, however its pretty terrible that they're giving the prize to someone who sort of fulfills one of the 3 qualifications in the hopes that he will eventually achieve the other 2. I mean comeon, if every candidate flat out sucked this year just give it to the Sec-General of the UN.

I gotta be honest, I'd hope every world leader would eventually earn the prize.

or amnesty international or some seals or a tree or something.

Swine Flu Vaccine: Is it Ethical to Say No?

In general, I say it's unethical to "force" anyone to get a shot they don't want.

But I also don't have a problem with requiring anyone who wants to work in the healthcare industry to get it. Just like the military will require various shots to its members. The good of society has a lot of influence.

My family all got the flu shot and will get the H1N1 shot.

I've never had a flu shot in my life and definitely don't plan on ever getting one, and am thankful to be in a country where I don't need to worry about it-- at least not until wintertime hits

I think you're best off just making sure you get lots of sunlight. Thats why flu season hits in the wintertime-- because lack of sunlight means less vitamin D, which helps to fight against the flu, and there is lots of research in support of that, which interestingly enough, one won't hear about from mainstream sources.