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When people try and save face

"Thought I was hit in the face, and fought back"

Yeah whenever I get hit with a pie, it triggers PTSD from my boxing days.

09-22-2016 , 04:37 PM

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Politicians in the news

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...icle-1.2801585

I can't believe that protester assaulted Kevin Johnson's fist with his face five to ten times. Poor Kevin Johnson.

09-22-2016 , 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

This is the exact ethic espoused by capitalism, imo.

to each according to their contributions

09-22-2016 , 04:43 PM

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What's this name thing?

A teacher called me by a name I didn't want for the whole year, and that happened because I was a shy kid and didn't tell her how to say it.

If that's what happened, kids fault.

Kid's fault and also not kid's fault, because kids are frequently taught to be deferential to their authority figures even when they're right and the authority figure is wrong. They also don't know quite how far to push it. Authority figures in school also just assume that when there's a conflict that the kid is wrong, even when they're not. Unfortunately, this teaches kids deference to authority when we should be teaching them critical thinking instead.

09-22-2016 , 04:44 PM

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meh?

as I said then (for some reason PyramidScheme was unable to convince me to change my opinions on the issue toward his direction):

Yeah obviously I don't have a problem with your position, and never said I did

In fact I agree with it totally

09-22-2016 , 04:44 PM

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If he'd shoved that pie in a cop's face there are a lot of people who would be applauding the cop who shot him and saying "well, what do you expect, he thought the banana creme was a high explosive, totally understandable"

09-22-2016 , 04:46 PM

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And Kevin Johnson is a notorious sociopathic piece of ****, so it's kind of hard to feel any shred of sympathy for him

And his reaction was definitely a fair bit more severe than warranted; I'm pretty interested to know what the guy said to him

09-22-2016 , 04:47 PM

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I'm pretty interested to know what the guy said to him

Probably "the freer the market, the freer the people"

That would set me off, too, tbh

09-22-2016 , 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BenjaminAO

Say you're chinese, and people mangle your name all the time, and/or basically refuse to even try. There's a degree of truth to it, but at the same time, anyone not a dickbag is going to make it clear that the fault is with the mangler, not the manglee, so it's not worth splitting out from the general category "being a dick is dickish"

09-22-2016 , 04:48 PM

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There's many problems I personally have with schools, they try and guide kids to be a certain way and think in a certain way. Critical thinking is something everyone needs, but sadly the opposite happens.

09-22-2016 , 04:49 PM

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To your other point, I should have clarified that getting compensated more does not mean getting "more control" over the means of production. That aspect would remain as democratic as possible (with every person having an equal say).

I still find this pretty much impossible to imagine ever working in any fashion.

09-22-2016 , 04:49 PM

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Probably "the freer the market, the freer the people"

That would set me off, too, tbh

I was thinking something along the lines of calling his wife a **** and their charter school initiatives a poorly disguised naked grab for money and power that, like all of their machinations, is ultimately failing because of their own hubris, greed, and incompetence, but that would work too

09-22-2016 , 04:51 PM

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This is a pretty good article on the state of our education system:

http://www.cantrip.org/gatto.html

09-22-2016 , 04:52 PM

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I still find this pretty much impossible to imagine ever working in any fashion.

democracy?

09-22-2016 , 04:52 PM

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Yeah, to clarify, I hate Kevin Johnson, too

09-22-2016 , 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kokiri

Just talking from personal experience

Teacher on first day: "Hello BlahBlahBlah, is that how you pronounce your name? Do you want to be called anything else?"

Me in school after the teacher says it wrong: "Yes..."

Most of the time my teachers would make sure and even ask if I wanted to be called something different.

Now if the teacher just said it however they wanted and didn't even ask the child, then obviously they are wrong.

09-22-2016 , 04:54 PM

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Yeah, to clarify, I hate Kevin Johnson, too

No clarification necessary

My youth capitalism indoctrination camps taught me to parse nuance

09-22-2016 , 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

democracy?

pretty much

to be more precise, a system of control of the means of production that is driven by the will of the people as a whole in any tangible sense and that a) remotely functions, and b) isn't completely coopted by vested interests, corruption, and power holders.

09-22-2016 , 04:57 PM

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If you hate Kevin Johnson go and watch him getting decked by Greg Anthony at the end of a NBA game

09-22-2016 , 04:59 PM

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No clarification necessary

My youth capitalism indoctrination camps taught me to parse nuance

In Soviet Russia, nuance parses you.

09-22-2016 , 05:00 PM

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So basically the same way capitalism functions now?

09-22-2016 , 05:01 PM

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No, significantly worse.

09-22-2016 , 05:02 PM

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Birdman, are you at all troubled by issues of freedom of speech and religion and general human rights in historic socialist countries?

09-22-2016 , 05:02 PM

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I always get the feeling that kokiri is just one Birdman ****post away from deciding to no longer tolerate me.

09-22-2016 , 05:03 PM

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Birdman, are you at all troubled by issues of freedom of speech and religion and general human rights in historic socialist countries?

Yes. But not as troubled as I am with the issues of access to food, shelter, and medical care in both historic and current capitalist countries.

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