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06-03-2016 , 05:01 AM
The word you think you're talking about is the word: prejudiced

Prejudiced Definition: - A word used in the 1980s and 1990s to describe the act of pre-judging people based on race. This word would later be replaced by "racist" so liberals could better guilt people in debate
06-03-2016 , 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloobird
If there are a greater number of people who are biased against others due to their race or sex, does it not make more sense to focus on those areas?
Huh? It only makes sense to teach people not to do it. To run a media-university driven witch hunt to point out and expose and humiliate anyone who might be doing it is destructive. At the end of the day, there is a lot of opinion surrounding trying to judge the bias of another. The process is ironically bias itself. It needs to stop.
06-03-2016 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
Just admit your original si...ppppppprivilege!, and all shall be forgiven!

Seriously its statements like this where you become a religion. I'm not gonna sit here and accept the SJW definition of racism. You are a racist if you want to discriminate against individuals on the basis of race/ generally treat them like lesser or ****. If you do this you ARE a bad person. Anyone who is a racist is a bad person. I understand if you expand the definition to be everything under the sun, then sure you aren't a bad person.... since EVERYONE is racist!
What would you call racial prejudice that falls short of actual conscious discrimination?
06-03-2016 , 05:22 AM
oh hey you answered that one already

Does 'racial prejudice' work for you? As a subset of prejudice? Prejudice itself is an extremely broad term and not exclusive to race, it's useful to be able to define the kind of prejudice that's being talked about.
06-03-2016 , 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
Huh? It only makes sense to teach people not to do it. To run a media-university driven witch hunt to point out and expose and humiliate anyone who might be doing it is destructive. At the end of the day, there is a lot of opinion surrounding trying to judge the bias of another. The process is ironically bias itself. It needs to stop.
So you agree with the aims but not the method?
06-03-2016 , 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloobird
What would you call racial prejudice that falls short of actual conscious discrimination?
Prejudice. I feel very confident that constantly talking about it all the time leads to more of it.
06-03-2016 , 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloobird
So you agree with the aims but not the method?
I mean I agree that removing as much racial bias from individuals as possible is good. As I just said I am very confident todays current methods create more not less. Additionally I also am willing to accept that it's going to exist and not go complete ape-**** over every potential instance of it. Human beings are so ******edly bias most we'll chase a flush draw because "spades have been coming out a lot lately".... if we can't eliminate that how are we going to completely eliminate racial bias?


Also I apologize for talking about poker in POG. This must have broken our 3 year long streak of never bringing it up.
06-03-2016 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloobird
I think there is an unnecessary conflation between 'you are a racist' (or sexist or whatever) and 'you are a bad person' which affects both sides of the debate.
Well if you want to use racist but don't want to call them a bad person, then racism isn't always bad - could even help inform your decisions if you are relying on a strong foundation.

But calling someone racist implies certain things about their mentality, so it seems dishonest to me to keep using 'racism' even though it's not bad behavior.

Last edited by Myrologue; 06-03-2016 at 06:53 AM.
06-03-2016 , 06:51 AM
hm. everyone is biased, inevitably. can't create a world where everyone is perfectly informed about everyone, therefore teach people to think critically about their bias.

like, that phrase, 'give someone a fish and he eats for a day, or teach someone to fish and they will eat for a lifetime'? it applies here. you can teach people they're wrong or you can teach them to think for themselves, and they will correct themselves.

Last edited by Myrologue; 06-03-2016 at 06:56 AM.
06-03-2016 , 08:01 AM
So Zork is backing out because one of the moderators is biased against him.

Wait...I just figured it out! Zork IS Trump!
06-03-2016 , 08:42 AM
I for one hope Zork's search for a safe space to call fellow posters fascists while not having someone he likes be called racist for saying overtly racist things goes swimmingly.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
06-03-2016 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
i'm pretty sure that before a few years ago, this would have been the entire article:




the end
Isn't this the entire point about your and PS's fanaticism about all of this stuff though? Before a few years ago, there were less media outlets, less online places to express things. Exposure has increased, but that in no way means that incidents have increased. Media covers college issues because people want to read about it and are interested and are paying. Once people stop being interested, these stories will fade, just like every other ****ing time in human history where the media is involved.

Are you one of those people that thinks that because there are more autistic people today than before that there MUST be a cause? Or is it just possible that it is more diagnosed and more reported on now than before? What is the difference between that and more instances of minor stuff like this showing up in the media and being covered more today than before?
06-03-2016 , 09:19 AM
Another banner day in Trump 1st amendment policies:





Trump also said during the speech that the Washington Post was a "disgusting" newspaper and "dirty."

(he has previously complimented WaPo lol).

Conservative legal scholars think Trump presents a unique threat, teetering toward authoritarianism: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/04...ion-power.html

Last edited by domer2; 06-03-2016 at 09:24 AM.
06-03-2016 , 10:03 AM
Welcome Back MB!
06-03-2016 , 10:07 AM
Conservative weighs in on Trump's judge attacks, concludes it is obvious racism:

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This is What Overt Racism Looks Like

I am sorry, but there is nothing else to call this. The Wall Street Journal ($) has just released an interview with Donald Trump in which Trump explains his repeated and continued attacks on Gonzalo Curiel, the judge assigned to the Trump University case. Curiel’s decision to release records related to the case in response to a public interest request filed by the Washington Post has clearly infuriated Trump and imperiled his general election campaign.

In a rambling tirade against the judge, delivered earlier this week in his back yard of San Diego, Trump said, among other things, that Curiel was “a Mexican, we think.” (Curiel, as it happens, is from the Chicago area, but his parents are of Mexican heritage.) The WSJ finally got around to asking Trump the question that should have been asked from the first moment he mentioned the judge’s ethnicity, which was actually a couple months ago when Curiel refused to dismiss the case on summary judgment. That question, of course, is “Why would you bring up the judge’s ethnicity at all?”

Trump’s answer was, shall we say, revealing:

In an interview, Mr. Trump said U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel had “an absolute conflict” in presiding over the litigation given that he was “of Mexican heritage” and a member of a Latino lawyers’ association. Mr. Trump said the background of the judge, who was born in Indiana to Mexican immigrants, was relevant because of his campaign stance against illegal immigration and his pledge to seal the southern U.S. border. “I’m building a wall. It’s an inherent conflict of interest,” Mr. Trump said.


Think about what Trump is saying for a minute. Forget that Trump himself repeatedly bragged on the primary campaign trail that he would win the Hispanic vote and focus on what he is now saying: he is saying that no Hispanic person on earth can be trusted to give him a fair hearing. He is saying that no one – even a Mexican born in America – can be trusted rule impartially in accordance with the law simply because of Trump’s stance on whether there ought to be a wall on the Southern border.

Keep in mind, Curiel himself is not an illegal immigrant, or even an immigrant. I have no idea whether his parents were even immigrants or illegal immigrants. They are of Mexican heritage, therefore he cannot be trusted to pass judgment on Trump, who supports a wall on the Mexican border.

Look, there’s no other way to say this: that’s just overt racism. Saying that this guy has a “conflict of interest” against Trump solely based on his Mexican heritage is also an accidental admission on Trump’s part that he is opposed to Mexicans.

He’s not dog whistling it any more. He’s not doing the wink-and-nod thing. He’s flat out saying: you cannot trust anything this guy says about me because he’s a Mexican. If that isn’t racism, I don’t know what is.
http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/...sm-looks-like/
06-03-2016 , 10:16 AM
He is more than a racist, he is a fascist.
I do not use that description lightly.
06-03-2016 , 10:29 AM
i gave up on america tbh.

although i also gave up on humanity.
06-03-2016 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Myrologue
i gave up on america tbh.

although i also gave up on humanity.
thanks for weighing in
06-03-2016 , 10:37 AM
So I was talking to a British woman about England leaving the UK and she used the line"the immigrants just do the jobs Englanders don't want to do anyway". Made me lol. Universal rhetoric?
06-03-2016 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by domer2
Conservative weighs in on Trump's judge attacks, concludes it is obvious racism:



http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/...sm-looks-like/
to this
06-03-2016 , 10:47 AM
And the author still sounds like he's going to vote for him.

From later in the article:
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Every day, Trump makes it easier to remember that there is literally no reason for anyone to ever vote for him other than not being Hillary Clinton. And every day, he makes it easier to question whether that’s enough.
06-03-2016 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by domer2
thanks for weighing in
yw
06-03-2016 , 10:52 AM
i don't know what americans should do. i guess if you want to get embroiled in several more wars overseas then clinton is the better choice. if not, well at least trump doesn't have a strong incentive to kill people in the middle-east.

but i mean either way you're screwed by the next depression. and even though some hate clinton, i doubt you really care if a few more hundred thousand people die because she's elected.

Last edited by Myrologue; 06-03-2016 at 10:59 AM.
06-03-2016 , 11:05 AM
Hopefully the fed gets these inflation rates up to their target soon or we may be in trouble
06-03-2016 , 11:13 AM
if you elect clinton, i'm pretty sure she enables war profiteering, and gives handouts to the poor and minorities to act 'democratic' so she has a chance of getting reelected.

that's the impression i get anyway.

if you elect trump, he's a narcissist but i don't think he is malicious. he will be a populist and throw money and influence at issues he thinks are important to americans. if he has good advisors and good staff he will do well, but if not he will look like a fish on dry land.

In addition, Trump will also want to pass laws that increase his net worth. These may or may not help people who are not Trump.

      
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