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11-20-2017 , 03:07 PM
No you're right McConnell will have no problem with Moore because of the rich
11-20-2017 , 03:55 PM
in honor of Marshawn Lynch coming to the forefront of American political dialog



This is the only reason I know who Marshawn Lynch even is. Yo we gon' call out 'blood' when your sandwich ready.
11-20-2017 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
What's the correct narrative?


Correct narrative is he only cares about cutting his own taxes, and other people may as well be rocks for all he knows.
11-20-2017 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
Correct narrative is he only cares about cutting his own taxes, and other people may as well be rocks for all he knows.
So he is pretty well aligned with the GOP congress then :P
11-20-2017 , 04:34 PM
barely sentient potato sack and human lump of snot Sarah Huckabee Sanders has pounded her enormous square face into the discount bag of drugstore cosmetics, hit the plus size racks at Dress Barn and crawled to the WH podium for another glimpse into the abyss of banality
11-21-2017 , 11:54 AM
For all the sexual assault rankers out there, I'd put the unctuous PBS hack Charlie Rose quite a bit higher than my buddy Al Franken, if we're still keeping score.
11-21-2017 , 12:04 PM
Genuine Frontier Gibberish spouting relic starts drinking before noon, moves three possums off his desk, makes pathetic attempt to troll thread.
11-21-2017 , 12:22 PM
Party in Zimbabwe tonite.
11-21-2017 , 08:51 PM
charlie rose accused of sexual harassment.

i always hated that ****ing guy
11-22-2017 , 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
For all the sexual assault rankers out there, I'd put the unctuous PBS hack Charlie Rose quite a bit higher than my buddy Al Franken, if we're still keeping score.
Keeping score? You really want to keep score?

(Hint: Your side is worse)

(Also your side is trying to kill net neutrality. Hope you are ready to pay a premium to access 2p2)

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11-26-2017 , 12:46 AM
So - in the threads opinion - has there been any developments in the Mueller investigation that has increased the chance of a Trump impeachment that we know of?
11-26-2017 , 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DiggertheDog
So - in the threads opinion - has there been any developments in the Mueller investigation that has increased the chance of a Trump impeachment that we know of?
Flynn seems to be turning is the latest big news which increases the chances somewhat. But, I still don't expect a Trump impeachment. But hoping for a Trump Jr, Kushner, or Bannon indictment.
11-26-2017 , 02:48 AM
An indictment for something random or think it will involve Russians?
11-26-2017 , 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DiggertheDog
So - in the threads opinion - has there been any developments in the Mueller investigation that has increased the chance of a Trump impeachment that we know of?
Given that impeachment is primarily a political issue, there are a couple of routes the Mueller investigation can lead to a Trump impeachment:

1.) Trump interferes in the investigation in a way that looks indefensible. Either he leans in on the Justice Department till they shut down the investigation or he pardons people who look extremely guilty. Mueller indicting the Kush or Don Jr might prompt Trump to action and the probability of that has in my estimate increased from the start of the investigation. If Flynn has flipped, as has been reported, there are relatively few higher-ups in the Trump universe who he can implicate.

2.) Mueller issues a report in which he finds that Trump has colluded with the Russians or obstructed justice. I think what we know about Trump's part in the firing of Comey would allow the Congress to impeach right now - if they were that way inclined, which they're not - but in practice we'll have to wait for Mueller to say something about it before the issue comes to a head.

At that time the vital question is whether Democrats have the votes to impeach. As long as Republicans control Congress, Trump is safe outside of a scenario in which he becomes unpopular with the Republican base. An economic downturn might do it, but evidence that Trump committed crimes probably won't, given the post-factual nature of American politics.
11-26-2017 , 10:21 AM
Party Republicans would get Pence. I think it's actually the Democrats who don't want to see impeachment/removal. You don't see them clamoring for it in the press, eg.

I believe Trump's base is already shrinking, based both on polls and personal conversations, so I'm not sure how hard it would be for FoxNews (the fishhook of the RW base) to turn a draft dodging, veteran insulting, pro choice buffoon into the enemy, but I agree that Mueller indictments of top associates would provide great cover for Congressmen whose constituents still love "carry them out on a stretcher" president pussy grabber.
11-26-2017 , 10:32 AM
Just read yesterday that Trump is withdrawing support of the Kurds to please Erdogan. What an *******. They've done the majority of the work on the ground against ISIS. Maybe it's a gesture towards Flynn?

I've also read that Russia is sitting at the center of an impending deal between Syria and Iran. None of these three powers want to see an independent Kurdistan.

Not looking good for freedom and democracy in the Middle East...
11-26-2017 , 10:59 AM
https://www.salon.com/2017/11/24/her...-clinton-2020/

Hillary 2020 to say fu to the trumpers
11-26-2017 , 11:23 AM
That might be the worst article you've ever linked ITT (and yes, I'm aware of the ground that covers)
11-26-2017 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tappokone
Given that impeachment is primarily a political issue, there are a couple of routes the Mueller investigation can lead to a Trump impeachment:

1.) Trump interferes in the investigation in a way that looks indefensible. Either he leans in on the Justice Department till they shut down the investigation or he pardons people who look extremely guilty. Mueller indicting the Kush or Don Jr might prompt Trump to action and the probability of that has in my estimate increased from the start of the investigation. If Flynn has flipped, as has been reported, there are relatively few higher-ups in the Trump universe who he can implicate.

2.) Mueller issues a report in which he finds that Trump has colluded with the Russians or obstructed justice. I think what we know about Trump's part in the firing of Comey would allow the Congress to impeach right now - if they were that way inclined, which they're not - but in practice we'll have to wait for Mueller to say something about it before the issue comes to a head.

At that time the vital question is whether Democrats have the votes to impeach. As long as Republicans control Congress, Trump is safe outside of a scenario in which he becomes unpopular with the Republican base. An economic downturn might do it, but evidence that Trump committed crimes probably won't, given the post-factual nature of American politics.
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
Party Republicans would get Pence. I think it's actually the Democrats who don't want to see impeachment/removal. You don't see them clamoring for it in the press, eg.

I believe Trump's base is already shrinking, based both on polls and personal conversations, so I'm not sure how hard it would be for FoxNews (the fishhook of the RW base) to turn a draft dodging, veteran insulting, pro choice buffoon into the enemy, but I agree that Mueller indictments of top associates would provide great cover for Congressmen whose constituents still love "carry them out on a stretcher" president pussy grabber.
11-26-2017 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
That might be the worst article you've ever linked ITT (and yes, I'm aware of the ground that covers)
It is from one of your publications
11-26-2017 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DiggertheDog
So - in the threads opinion - has there been any developments in the Mueller investigation that has increased the chance of a Trump impeachment that we know of?
No. because President Trump has not committed any crimes and never colluded with Russia. Flynn maybe committed a crime, but it won't do anything for you guys because his crimes have nothing to do with the President, I am not sure if his crimes have anything to do with Russia either, (which is what the counsel was assigned for?) Oh yeah and he will pardon his son or son in law if they get them on some technicality of filling a form incorrectly. So it is really a waste of time, and no pardoning people is not a impeachable offense.

Show me the man and I will find you the crime!

Oh wait. I cant find any crime, so I am going to waste millions in tax dollars just hoping to obstruct an administration for years.

I am also convinced he made Pence his VP so thinking liberals would realize the Presidents ideas are way more aligned with classic liberal principles than Pence.
11-26-2017 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
Just read yesterday that Trump is withdrawing support of the Kurds to please Erdogan. What an *******. They've done the majority of the work on the ground against ISIS. Maybe it's a gesture towards Flynn?

I've also read that Russia is sitting at the center of an impending deal between Syria and Iran. None of these three powers want to see an independent Kurdistan.

Not looking good for freedom and democracy in the Middle East...


That the Kurds are ****ed is independent of trump I think - the us/Turkey connection makes it almost impossible to get us support for Kurdish nationalism, imo. And yes, it’s a scandal.
11-26-2017 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
Party Republicans would get Pence. I think it's actually the Democrats who don't want to see impeachment/removal. You don't see them clamoring for it in the press, eg.

I believe Trump's base is already shrinking, based both on polls and personal conversations, so I'm not sure how hard it would be for FoxNews (the fishhook of the RW base) to turn a draft dodging, veteran insulting, pro choice buffoon into the enemy, but I agree that Mueller indictments of top associates would provide great cover for Congressmen whose constituents still love "carry them out on a stretcher" president pussy grabber.


Having a looming Russian scandal rolling all through 2020 might be optimal for the Ds. Hamstrings the trump administration and provides easy campaign fodder, without letting Pence in. The timeline looks pretty tight for an impeachment and the votes really aren’t going to be there unless something really really bad surfaces. It’s possible, but unlikely I think.
11-26-2017 , 12:15 PM
"technicality of filling a form incorrectly"

Free Capone!
11-26-2017 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
It is from one of your publications
I don't have a publication. Even if they normally might align with my political leanings (haven't read enough salon.com articles to be able to say this), trash is trash and I'll call it out as such.

      
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