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Well this is the nut wrong for sure. Dusting has some bananas idea about faked deaths, and a pogger of longstanding knew irl someone killed in the incident. Of course it's the right thing to do to connect the dots.

03-18-2019 , 04:05 PM

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birdman

when you think omar's comments are not antisemetic, is it possible that you are racist?

banning conspiracy theories in pog is a dumb idea. people dont have to come to the thread or can easily put him on ignore

i agree we are ALL racist to some degree, everyone is, and birdman is correct that discussing and bringing it out in the open cant be a bad thing. i am just questioning how self aware birdman is as well

03-18-2019 , 04:06 PM

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because the best possible result is chim leaving the thread upset?

03-18-2019 , 04:20 PM

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Feel free to ignore this but Jack is no more sexist than all men are for literally existing in our society - this is to say he is incredibly conscious IRL of all the issues you talk about here. I feel the need to defend him against your implications (as well as things you’ve outwardly stated previously) despite the fact that it will seem absurd, because I feel very strongly about this.

Of all the things he deserves crap for, this isn’t one of them. But just my opinion.

He's been an ally in the past, right now he's being an ass. His contribution to this discussion has been to call me a racist and say I'm faking outrage. I think my responses have been pretty chill tbh.

03-18-2019 , 04:24 PM

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Now this is hard hitting content Mason can be proud of!

03-18-2019 , 04:25 PM

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i know people will dismiss this as an insane ridiculous opinion, but i think it's immoral to own a pet in like 99.9% of cases. i say this as someone who has owned 3 dogs and loved and cared for them dearly.

animals want to be free, even if freedom means a much worse life.

people don't see animals as equals. they dismiss their needs and feelings because they are animals.

03-18-2019 , 04:28 PM

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You can't free domesticated animals, its too late and thats not how it works. Did you bother to google this even once, like ever?

Sigh.

03-18-2019 , 04:29 PM

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You guys, the internet exists, you're on it right now, you can google things before you decide to believe something crazy

03-18-2019 , 04:30 PM

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i know people will dismiss this as an insane ridiculous opinion

Yup.

03-18-2019 , 04:32 PM

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Sorry maybe people are misunderstanding me.

I’m not saying I don’t want chim or his views itt. I meant people should not have linked him here for his sake. Why would you like someone who was personally affected by it to a crazy person going on about how it’s all fake. We all knew nothing chim was going to say was going to change Dustin’s mind. All it served to do was make chim upset—and whoever linked him should know that.

03-18-2019 , 04:33 PM

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because the best possible result is chim leaving the thread upset?

I disagree. It's had some impact on DG, who knows maybe it's the first step.

03-18-2019 , 04:33 PM

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Incorrect.

03-18-2019 , 04:34 PM

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i'm not saying the solution is to free them. i know they will starve, freeze, get runover, etc... but they are less than second class citizens, and imo it's wrong to perpetuate

and i know plenty of pets have fantastic lives! way better than my life

03-18-2019 , 04:34 PM

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im assuming you are vegan?

03-18-2019 , 04:34 PM

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Maybe whoever linked it to chim imagined that chim is an adult with free will who choose to click on it, and not some infant to be insulated and coddled. How insulting.

03-18-2019 , 04:35 PM

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Fair enough. But if that's the case we should just lock the thread. No one's going to be influenced to any degree and we're abandoning the pursuit of evidence fact and truth, what's the point.

03-18-2019 , 04:36 PM

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I disagree. It's had some impact on DG, who knows maybe it's the first step.

so at best chim left upset and maybe dustin will be more careful who he tells his conspiracy theories to so who cares?

03-18-2019 , 04:36 PM

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because the best possible result is chim leaving the thread upset?

Yeah this is basically what I meant.

I guess as long as the person who linked him gave a clear content warning...then ok.

But it mostly feels like the best thing to do when Dustin talks about Sandy Hook and the like is to ignoring it—not use it to just make everyone get upset (especially those personally affected)

03-18-2019 , 04:36 PM

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i know people will dismiss this as an insane ridiculous opinion, but i think it's immoral to own a pet in like 99.9% of cases. i say this as someone who has owned 3 dogs and loved and cared for them dearly.

animals want to be free, even if freedom means a much worse life.

people don't see animals as equals. they dismiss their needs and feelings because they are animals.

hmm.. many pet owners treat their animals better than people, tho... I think it is a polarized thing. Some people (maybe 10%) get pets and then treat them like crap and neglect them or abuse them. For others (maybe 90%) nothing or nobody comes before the pet..

There are not many people in the middle, imo..

Also, don't agree that domestic dogs want to be free. They want to be loved, fed, walked and petted...

03-18-2019 , 04:36 PM

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they will starve, freeze, get runover, etc...

No, they will multiply at an exponential rate and spread disease at a speed the likes of which humanity hasn't seen since the days of the Black Death. But... sigh. Whatever, I don't even care.

03-18-2019 , 04:37 PM

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Fair enough. But if that's the case we should just lock the thread. No one's going to be influenced to any degree and we're abandoning the pursuit of evidence fact and truth, what's the point.

cause we are discussing things

things in this thread have made me rethink things. probably hasnt made my "opponents" but who cares

but i agree with bird on this one

03-18-2019 , 04:38 PM

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Are you seriously litigating the person who showed Chim the link vs the person who linked Chim to a video of his friend's body. I don't even.

03-18-2019 , 04:38 PM

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Maybe whoever linked it to chim imagined that chim is an adult with free will who can click on it or not, and not some infant to insulated and coddled. How insulting.

I guess this is one way to look at it. I feel like this is a pretty cynical way of looking at being sympathetic to someone’s feelings. Especially when there is literally nothing to be gained.

03-18-2019 , 04:39 PM

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Incorrect.

i'm convinced you're a very good person, but we have some different opinions on animal equality.

might is right, is still a thing when it comes to animals. just cuz you have the power to completely control the lives of animals doesn't make it right

i aint no saint. plenty of things i do in my life are terrible. raising sheep isn't the worst thing in the world, but it aint great imo. i'm sure you question the morality of it sometimes, no?

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