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03-17-2019 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by soah
I'm pretty sure that scientists have a higher burden of proof than "I looked at some grainy tv footage shot from a helicopter and decided that the image of a body wasn't a real body" and "I know that no police officer would ever put a real dead body near living people so therefore we know for a fact it's not a real body."
Sure. But what about in cases where you have physics to argue with? Where there is ballistics data? Where we can analyze the footage that we see when the wtc buildings fall, etc?

Also that is a mischaracterization of the evidence.
03-17-2019 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by soah
So for example, if your theory is that nobody died but someone confirms to you that people died, then that one thing would override all of the random nonsense about all of the ambulances very suspiciously following standard procedures about not entering a dangerous location.
I started a post. And then I deleted it. And it's good. But not right now. I'm happy to talk theory and in general terms right now.
03-17-2019 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
WELCOME to today's episode of "Xnerd Actually Checks"

For those who didn't bother to click an article posted by someone known for not contributing anything meaningful to a conversation, let me bring it to you!

The headline is "DEAR JEWISH-AMERICAN LEFTISTS: IT’S TIME FOR A TALK"

And its photo accompaniment



It starts out
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From one Jew to another.
Ok, I'm listening.

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You are the resounding 72-74% majority of the 5.4 Million American Jewry who have backed the Democratic Party since the sun has risen in the East. We get it; you’re for minority rights because you will forever identify as a minority. You’re forever for JFK , even though his brand of liberalism is long gone and has actually morphed into modern conservatism. You’re forever for FDR, even though it was the Republican Ronald Reagan who delivered approximately 3,000,000 Soviet Jews from bondage of Anti-Semitic leftist oppression.
Huh? Forever for JFK and FDR? Where is this going...

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The Democratic Party of the 1950s was the party of the underdog, and you’re forever the underdog, in your mind, in your memory and by virtue of our tiny demographic. Your parents and grandparents have been married to the Democratic party since before you were born, and you can’t let go of what has been engrained in you with mother’s milk. Understandable.
I get the feeling I'm being talked down to here lol, but uh.. go on?

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Today is 2019, not the 1950s. And after the devastating failure of your Party to stand with you (as Jews) unequivocally against the rabid Nazi-era anti-Semitism of Democratic Congresswoman Omar, you stand in the final hour of a critical decision, depleted of all excuses for your political loyalty. And you know it.
Oh wow, here we ****in' go

This part will be clipped bc its long. There's a long list of "history" in bullet points that seem to describe policy, but with.. uh.. flowery.. language and not a small hint of editorializing, shall we say.

First the Obama part-

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• At the UN, your favorite President Barack Obama, famously called for Israel to return to 1967 Borders. You said nothing and continued to exalt his virtue.

• On his way out of office, the same Democratic POTUS released a whopping $150 Billion to the mullahs of Iran who have a single clearly stated goal; washing Israel out to sea with their nukes. You said nothing and continued to sing the 44th praises.

• You never once heard the word “Jihad” leave Obama’s lips when describing Islamic terror attacks against Jews in France. You said nothing and continued to praise him in your liberal synagogues.

…Because Obama is your guy. Because he had the visible color of the underdog. Because the Democratic party is the perceived home of your ancestors.
The above red is unequivocally racist. But ok, lets keep going.

Here's the Trump part-

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• President Donald Trump, by virtue of the American Embassy move, underscores Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel. You instantly end your supine silence and find your voice in loud opposition to the most logical, lawful, courageous and Israel-loving politic. With trembling knees, you proclaim “he’s angering the Arabs” in your posturing speeches on Shul Bimahs, in schools, social media and in endless editorials. When WW3 failed to occur, you retreat back to your silence, having sufficiently defamed the President.

• President Trump stands alone against feckless Europe in ending the disastrous Obama era of Nuclear Appeasement with Iran, undoing the damage done by the your favorite ex-President. Ignoring this courageous unpopular move and Iran’s devotion to the annihilation of the Jewish people as its number one cause, you continue to bash the President.

• In every State of the Union and UN address, you hear President Trump exalt Israel, condemn the Holocaust, and explicitdly exclaim the non-negotiated American support for Israel under his administration. Backed not by his words, but by his deeds! ….You? You continue to bash the President.

• You, the liberal Jews of America, continue to bash the man who has never once said, let alone done, anything remotely anti-Semitic. You go as far as partaking in discussions and events that compare Trump to Hitler and the KKK. You sign petitions and you echo the cherry-picked sound-bytes of MSNBC’s three-year smear campaign.
Then there's a section called

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How you vote and what you do:
I assume by "you" the author means the "supine", "trembling knees", "posturing" "Liberal Jews of Amerca. Lets see.

Some clips!

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• You vote for the party whose elected politicians announce that you have duel loyalty, the oldest most vilifying anti-Semitic charge of genocidal racism.

• You vote for the party that can’t remove a repeatedly outspoken rabid anti-Semite from membership in the Foreign Affairs Committee, which sets policy with Israel and its friendly neighbors.

• You vote for the party that dilutes and shoves its unhinged pre-Holocaust brand of anti-Semitism under the table, unable to pass a simple resolution against their hate of YOU.

• You vote for the party of Bernie Sanders, the man who defends Omar’s anti-Semitism and Palestinian militancy against Israel’s citizens. The same Socialist Sanders who once falsely accused Israel of a 10,000 dead-Palestinians genocide. The same Sanders who thinks your children “standing in queues for food is a good idea”.

• You even vote for the party whose elected officials tell you (the Jews) that you and your ilk have “hypnotized the world”...!
Wait this all seems about Ilhan Omar...

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• You vote with the party whose elected official may be in violation of a federal statute for fundraising for two Muslim Brotherhood charities and its affiliates. Same officials who participate as keynote speakers at events for the Muslim Brotherhood affiliated groups IRUSA and CAIR.

• You vote for the party that gave us the KKK, David Duke and white supremacy. All the while, relentlessly brainwashing the public to tie this Democrat evil to the Republicans.
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Going back to its Ku Klux Klan and Jim Crow days, the beloved Democrat Party of your ancestors has always been a hotbed of antisemitism — ... A Party that is now in the firm grip of Congresswomen Tlaib, Omar and AOC.
Wow.

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Your Party has failed you. ... It has conditioned you to see yourself not as proud Jews, but as underdogs only, indoctrinated to believe in the Democratic Party’s deliverance, irrespective of its dismal track record.

...

The party which now officially and proudly adds the 4th wing of hate to their platform, the one that you can’t run from or double-talk against; “Blame it on the Jews”.

...

You stand with the party that has exhumed every hatred & division across racial & identity lines known to man. All to secure your loyalty and obedience as the perpetual underdog.

...

You stand with the party that continues to elect Islamic and anti-Semitic politicians who propagate anti-Semitism proudly, even though your voter ballots are too few to matter to them in any election.
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You’ve been duped. ... They have sold you out, because your numbers are insignificant in the voting booth. And because another minority they can’t upset provides them with a much bigger voting block. You have a choice to continue on this path of self-desecration, dragging the rest of us to 1930s Germany with you, or you can walk away now, before the next election.
And here is the articles conclusion, unedited-

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Your other option, to comfortably retreat right back into the lazy boy of your trembling Jewish knees and once again vote Democrat in 2020, still remains. Telling yourself the same old lie “Everyone is anti-Semitic. Why change?”

Just remember this; When you’re no longer at the dinner table, you’re on the menu. And you’re certainly no longer at the dinner table with the Democratic Party, Islam is.

What legacy are you leaving your grandchildren? The legacy of the new but all-too-familiar German Jews with heads in the sand? Or the legacy of the 21st Century American Maccabees? Your clock is running out.

As the majority block of the collective American Jewish vote, you have the power to determine how history and all our children judge us. Make the right choice.

Above all the myriad points I feel like making to mets right now on personal level regarding how this article really viscerally proves my points from previous days, how disgusted I am at the content describing my family as "retreating to the lazy boy with trembling knees", all the ways I think his religion and all religions are poisonous moral punji pits, the MAIN POINT that needs to be made here is that you thought your Judaism gave you clearance to post what is VERY OBVIOUSLY a racist and Islamaphobic article.


If you espoused those views yourself in here in those terms, you would eat a ban.

You don't get to get away with posting that **** just by virtue of nobody bothering to inspect it bc you're known for posting useless trash.

So I want everyone to know.

Metsandfinsfan posted an Islamaphobic article about Ilhan Omar describing her as "rabid nazi-era" anti-semite with a "firm grip" on the Demoratic party who will use Islam to put jews "on the menu".

Completely un-****ing acceptable.

Last edited by Crossnerd; 03-17-2019 at 08:52 PM.
03-17-2019 , 08:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crossnerd
WELCOME to today's episode of "Xnerd Actually Checks"

For those who didn't bother to click an article posted by someone known for not contributing anything meaningful to a conversation, let me bring it to you!

The headline is "DEAR JEWISH-AMERICAN LEFTISTS: IT’S TIME FOR A TALK"

And its photo accompaniment



It starts out Ok, I'm listening.



Huh? Forever for JFK and FDR? Where is this going...



I get the feeling I'm being talked down to here lol, but uh.. go on?



Oh wow, here we ****in' go

This part will be clipped bc its long. There's a long list of "history" in bullet points that seem to describe policy, but with.. uh.. flowery.. language and not a small hint of editorializing, shall we say.

First the Obama part-



The above red is unequivocally racist. But ok, lets keep going.

Here's the Trump part-



Then there's a section called



I assume by "you" the author means the "supine", "trembling knees", "posturing" "Liberal Jews of Amerca. Lets see.

Some clips!



Wait this all seems about Ilhan Omar...





Wow.





And here is the articles conclusion, unedited-




Above all the myriad points I feel like making to mets right now on personal level regarding how this article really viscerally proves my points from previous days, how disgusted I am at the content describing my family as "retreating to the lazy boy with trembling knees", all the ways I think his religion and all religions are poisonous moral punji pits, the MAIN POINT that needs to be made here is that you thought your Judaism gave you clearance to post what is VERY OBVIOUSLY a racist and Islamaphobic article.


If you espoused those views yourself in here in those terms, you would eat a ban.

You don't get to get away with posting that **** just by virtue of nobody bothering to inspect it bc you're known for posting useless trash.

So I want everyone to know.

Metsandfinsfan posted an Islamaphobic article about Ilhan Omar describing her as "rabid nazi-era" anti-semite with a "firm grip" on the Demoratic party who will use Islam to put jews "on the menu".

Completely un-****ing acceptable.
I don’t know how mets is still allowed to post here. I really don’t.
03-17-2019 , 08:56 PM
Identity politics can be a two-way street.
03-17-2019 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
She condemned the anti semitic tropes omar used. Peolle saying that incited Muslim hate are dumb
So yeah, anyway, people saying CC incited hate is dumb.

What incites Muslim hate are articles like the one mets posted.
03-17-2019 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Omar being chastised for her comments have absolutely nothing to do with her being Muslim or a woman
And if you believed this, you wouldn't have posted an article calling her a rabid holocaust era antisemite that named ISLAM as the reason to fear her involvement in the DC.

Did you read that article before you posted it and believe it?

Or did you not read it and just accidentally posted an article that said Islamists were going to put jews "on the menu" if elected in the US government

Shame on you, you are scum
03-17-2019 , 09:01 PM
And just to make sure the article was totally unambiguously racist, the author brought up AOC and Rashida Tlaib several times as well.

RACIST.
03-17-2019 , 09:02 PM
You posted an article that included this line

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Obama is your guy. Because he had the visible color of the underdog.
Lemme tell you where you can put this ****, mets
03-17-2019 , 09:09 PM
Are these the words you wanted us to read?

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Going back to its Ku Klux Klan and Jim Crow days, the beloved Democrat Party of your ancestors has always been a hotbed of antisemitism — ... A Party that is now in the firm grip of Congresswomen Tlaib, Omar and AOC.
Words that equate congresswomen of color with the KKK and Jim Crow.
03-17-2019 , 09:21 PM
And your source, frontpagemag, is known for being anti-mulsim and islamaphobic, they've been called a hate group.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/frontpage-magazine/
03-17-2019 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by True North
I don’t know how mets is still allowed to post here. I really don’t.
Because there are apparently no rules for this thread, outside of personal attacks on other posters (and any site-wide rules obviously).

If Luckbox's "performance" this weekend with regard to Columbine isn't enough to eat a ban for content, pretty much nothing can be.
03-17-2019 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Because there are apparently no rules for this thread, outside of personal attacks on other posters (and any site-wide rules obviously).

If Luckbox's "performance" this weekend with regard to Columbine isn't enough to eat a ban for content, pretty much nothing can be.
I'll have to respond to this post in the same post I have to respond to Soah with.

But ultimately yes. You need to be nice and you need to be able to back up the things that you say. Which I suppose if all you want to do is be a social justice rage monkey, then there are enough opportunities.
I could have handled my posting with Chim better. It was insensitive. I agree. So you have me there. But I will back myself up on Columbine. There is a lot there.
03-17-2019 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
But I will back myself up on Columbine. There is a lot there.
What happened to the deal where you weren't going to post about conspiracies anymore until you backed up your Sandy Hook claims?
03-17-2019 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
You need to be nice and you need to be able to back up the things that you say.
I do not need to be nice. Anybody who tells me to be nice will be met with unladylike un-niceness.

Ps- smile *****
03-17-2019 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
I do not need to be nice. Anybody who tells me to be nice will be met with unladylike un-niceness.
OK not you. And not Master. Everybody else.
03-17-2019 , 10:01 PM
I don't speak for master. I speak for me.

And sometimes the trees.
03-17-2019 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I could have handled my posting with Chim better. It was insensitive. I agree. So you have me there.
It wasn't "insensitive". It was literally the worst posting in the history of this thread (and I'm aware of the ground that statement covers).
03-17-2019 , 10:02 PM
And frankly, Dustin, you were wholly unaware of how "insensitive" you were being to chim until you got raged at, so say thank you and sit down.
03-17-2019 , 10:05 PM
03-17-2019 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
It wasn't "insensitive". It was literally the worst posting in the history of this thread (and I'm aware of the ground that statement covers).
What I know is that these mass shootings events are dirty.

Your worldview doesn't allow for it but mine does.

There are literally countless hours of YouTube videos that cover these events. And I'm not stupid and I can recognize significance.

There are things that I consider open and shut that we haven't even talked about. And so I just know.

I understand that the idea of a large segment of humanity (apparently) just faking **** sounds bat-**** crazy to your worldview.

But the world is a bat**** crazy place. Unfortunately or fortunately.
03-17-2019 , 10:14 PM
"open and shut" like yesterday's open and shut when you said chim's friend was a police prop?

Coming in to double down today doesn't make me think your world view is "bat **** crazy", it makes me think you are.
03-17-2019 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
"open and shut" like yesterday's open and shut when you said chim's friend was a police prop?
I haven't change a word.

Yes. The way conspiracies work is that people are involved in them.
03-17-2019 , 10:18 PM
Anyway, I've said this to mets before when he gets really worked up and sure of himself without any evidence- have you heard of the dunning-kruger effect? It could be relevant to your interests..
03-17-2019 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I understand that mass shootings are a sensitive topic and of the few things where questions are not tolerated.

That needs to change. I would bet my life that both Columbine and Sandy Hook were faked. In Columbine there is literally footage of police dragging a body dummy across the grass*. There are like a hundred different reasons for thinking Sandy Hook was faked. Whole books have been written

And I honestly have zero clue about this in New Zealand. But 49 is a large number and should give anyone who knows what's up reason to think. Now here there is apparently footage. He live streamed it. I probably should watch it but I don't want to in case it is real. I would definitely not bet my life on it. But pointing out that a large body count is cause for concern when it fits a similar pattern to known hoaxes is totally ok.

And I think you are ok too. It's a crazy world that we live and we are being traumatized by our "leaders" for their own purposes. I think it's horrible and I consider things like this a big deal. If you think it makes me insane then ok. But I'm not.

*which I invite you to google.
Since this was xposted to politics, just wanted to drop by and laugh at how ****ing stupid you have to be to think a mass shooting is straight-up invented, with a bunch of fake people who never existed suddenly coming into existence to play victims, with a coverup so large and extensive that average-ass police officers are apparently in on it to drag fake bodies in.

Wild ****ing thread you got here soah, lmao

      
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