"Israel being a Jewish state is fascist. 16 countries not allowing israeli jews is pious "

Birdman

The only one avoiding anything is you avoiding the PM of Israel’s avowed ethno-nationalism. But you clearly support it which is appalling. Up there with your “slavery is a good idea” take.

Mets you really seem to be floundering here. At first it seemed you were implicitly against Netanyahu’s beleif in ethno-fascism when you pointed out other countries that (in your mind) had similar policies and tried to get me to decry them.

Now it seems like you actually support it and are trying to reframe the idea of ethnic cleansing of Arabs/Muslims/Palestinians as somehow associated with the Jewish faith.

I get that the idea of actually taking a stand and making up your mind is uncharted territory. You would much rather just deflect and play rhetorical games (albeit poorly) than ever actually examine your political beliefs. But maybe just clarify your stance here—do you not have a problem with what Netanyahu said? Do you think he is right?

Why not because it shows you're either a hypocrite or an antisemite?

It's okay for those countries to not allow Jews but Israel having 2 million muslims in their country where they have more

16 countries in the region are in favor of ethnic cleansing and eliminating jews from their countries

Since you hate Jews you don't care

You are the one floundering and showing your hypocrisy

The sad thing is you don't even realize your hypocrisy and or prejudice

Mets, in your mind, is it possible to be anti-Israel but not anti-Jew?

And by "anti-Israel", I mean the government. For example, what the Netanyahu quote that BM posted.

afaiu Jones was deplatformed for propagating misinformation masquerading as journalism, whereas Duke is just another deplorable pos

Maybe this isn’t Dustin’s point, but I think the takeaway from the fb thing is the amount of control over speech a corporation like fb has in a “liberal democracy” that is ostensibly supposed to have freedom of speech.

The takeaway I wanted is:
Alex Jones and Zerohedge: not racist and banned
David Duke and Breitbart: racist and not banned

Alex Jones is definitely racist

Perhaps he is and perhaps he isn't. You think so definitely but I don't think you're much of an authority on that.

If he is it isn't something that is immediately obvious from listening to him.

If you go to David Dukes twitter it is immediately obvious that he is a racist.

I don’t really understand how to answer this question. It’s like when a child just keeps asking why and you have to learn there isn’t really an end. You can why to everything.

Are you trying to get into a discussion about the linearity of time? Like at this moment I am talking about Israel because time moves in one direction. If you want to go deeper there is a theory about casaulity in physics where like an effect can not occur from a cause that is not in the back light cone of an event.

It is very obvious Alex Jones is racist

Does my alleged hypocrisy undo what Netanyahu said? Does it make ethnic cleansing ok?

You seem to be operating under a weird assumption that if you can make me into a hypocrite that changes anything about what Netanyahu said or what it means. I didn’t make him say what he said and my commentary does not change the material conditions of the Levant

I just tried Googling "Alex Jones racist quotes" but I didn't find any.

And I'm not saying there have to be quotes but they definitely help in making it "obvious".

So when the PM of Israel makes ethno-fascist comments and implicitly supports a continued policy of ethnic cleansing, you think “the sad thing is” a random guy on the Internet not realizing he is a hypocrite? Feels like you may need some perspective

It’s amazing to me that you actually just said this and think it shows anything

Well I just woke up and haven't had any coffee yet. I think it's interesting how you definitely think he is a racist but what is that based on? I doubt you've ever listened to his show.

Right now 16 countries don't allow Israeli jews

Leaders have suggested exterminating Jews

But your concern is netanyahu saying Israel is a Jewish state?

Your hypocrisy is hilarious

Mets, i have a somewhat unrelated honest question for you that i've been wondering personally about myself given my Jewish upbringing. My childhood synagogue is in the process of electing a new rabbi and they sent out a survey to both discuss what members wanted to see in a rabbi, and what values/traditions they wanted the temple to preserve or do more of. I was very surprised at how out of touch the questions seemed to be to literally anyone under the age of 40 - an age group which, correct me if I'm wrong, religions seem to target all the time.

I've had many conversations with my friends (both Jewish and Christian [mostly Catholic]) about how many of us younger adults are turning away from our religions because of some of the more dogmatic and traditional beliefs of our faith, not the least of which is the "mainstream" Jewish community/Israel lobby's staunch support of Israel's government to almost a zealous extent. While I recognize this isn't true of everyone involved, I would assume you agree that for the most part, this is the case.

Setting aside who is actually right and wrong (though you know how I feel), does this concern you? I know growing up that the preservation of the Jewish religion was basically priority 1A in the minds of older Jewish people - how do you feel about a large percentage of the younger generation, who were brought up on various sects of Judaism, turning away from their religion in no small part because of an arguably "secular" (I mean this as literally independent from the Jewish faith, not the more complicated meaning) core belief of mainstream Jews?

Apologize for this not being technically politics related but I'm curious as to what you think.

Also this is an excellent post

Right now there are millions of people on earth who are hypocritical

They make hypocritical statements constantly

But your concern is me pointing out that Netanyahu is a fascist

Your hypocrisy is hilarious

there are so many hypocrites in the world but you only care about my hypocrisy. That is so hypocritical mets.