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03-05-2019 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
You said: They’re trying to smear her and destroy her career.

I said: Her career will be fine.

This isn’t rocket science.
Ok if you agree that you just made a totally irrelevant side comment fine. But it has nothing to do with my post.

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I didn’t bother addressing your larger point because we all know USA imperialist, imperialism bad, blah blah blah.
If by “larger point” you just mean “point” ok. You did not address anything in my post.


If you are unwilling or not mentally equipped to engage with the concept of imperialism, fine. But at the very least I think you would find is suspicious how the two American political parties are in lock step on this (leaving aside for a second what they are actually lock step on for a moment) given you certainly seem to drink the kool-aid that Democrats are totally different than Republicans.
03-05-2019 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
maybe. if she doesn't get assassinated in the mean time
When was the last time a sitting member of Congress was assassinated? I'm going to have to go look this up. I can vaguely remember at least one attempt, but the details escape me.

Edit: There's a Wiki for everything, even this.
03-05-2019 , 04:44 PM
if it's unlikely she gets assassinated that doesn't make it ok that she is getting death threats and that other politicians are encouraging it
03-05-2019 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
if it's unlikely she gets assassinated that doesn't make it ok that she is getting death threats and that other politicians are encouraging it
It is not OK imo that anyone gets death threats. Would like a cite as to what other politicians are encouraging them please. This is important information.
03-05-2019 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
It is not OK imo that anyone gets death threats.
What are your thoughts on Marco Rubio making death threats to Maduro?
03-05-2019 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
It is not OK imo that anyone gets death threats. Would like a cite as to what other politicians are encouraging them please. This is important information.
some republican congressman or senator that you or i never heard of, and who's name we can't remember had a poster of ilhan omar and 9/11. it said "never forget" and "she is the proof we have forgotten"
03-05-2019 , 05:12 PM
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The Republican Party of West Virginia has come under fire after an Islamophobic poster linking Minnesota Congressmember Ilhan Omar to the 9/11 attacks was seen at a Republican event at the state Capitol Friday. The poster, displayed at the West Virginia GOP Day, shows the attack on the World Trade Center, with the words “'Never forget'–you said..” above the photo; below is a photo of Congressmember Omar, who is one of the first two Muslim women elected to Congress last November, with the words “I am the proof–you have forgotten” written underneath her photo. The West Virginia House of Delegates condemned the poster and said it was investigating the matter. The House’s principal law enforcement official, Anne Lieberman, resigned after a delegate accused her of calling all Muslims terrorists.

Omar responded to the poster via Twitter Friday, writing, “No wonder why I am on the 'Hitlist' of a domestic terrorist and 'Assassinate Ilhan Omar' is written on my local gas stations. Look no further, the GOP’s anti-Muslim display likening me to a terrorist rocks in state capitols and no one is condemning them!”
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/3/...causes_outrage
03-05-2019 , 06:10 PM
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The latest controversy comes as Omar was the subject of an Islamophobic attack in West Virginia's state house where a poster on display for a Republican Party event linked the congresswoman to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

The state party and GOP statehouse leaders condemned the sign. "The West Virginia Republican Party does not approve, condone, or support hate speech," state Republican Party Chairwoman Melody Potter said in a statement. "One of the exhibitors at our West Virginia Republican Party Day at the Capitol displayed a sign that we did not approve, were not aware of before the day started, and we do not support."
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/04/70016...rep-ilhan-omar
03-06-2019 , 11:59 AM
This fish is called a triple tail. You can't really see it by the way I'm holding it, but the back fins above and below the tail fin spread out so, with a bit of imagination, it looks like it has three tails.

These are very unusual fish. They find things that float on the surface and just sit there by them, usually on their side kinda like a flounder. In this case, I caught them on crab pot buoys. You can spot them fairly far away. They look like a garbage bag floating next to whatever it is they are next to. You have to throw a live shrimp near them and if they are hungry they will go get it. They are quite often finicky and won't do anything. They will eat live (fish) bait but people usually catch them with shrimp.



As a bonus, we saw these manta rays as well.

03-06-2019 , 12:07 PM
Are the manta rays protected? Google says the giant ones are. I had some for the first time while on the Pacific Coast of Colombia and they are delicious
03-06-2019 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Are the manta rays protected? Google says the giant ones are. I had some for the first time while on the Pacific Coast of Colombia and they are delicious
Yeah, it's illegal to take one.


That particular species swim in big schools. They don't get real big. However, we do see very large ones from time to time.
03-06-2019 , 04:53 PM
filthy,

You should put AOC on the back burner and go all in on Rashida Tlaib. She's going to file impeachment paperwork whether party leadership likes it or not.

I also enjoyed the journalistic flair in this particular section of the article:

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Asked if House leaders have cautioned Tlaib about her plans, she did not directly answer.

"When I speak to leadership, they constantly remind me I have to represent my district, and they know the diversity of all of our districts and how we approach, certain issues, and the fact that we have different styles of how do we approach different issues," she said.

Tlaib was joined by activists from a group called By the People, who traveled to Washington from around the country, including New York, Ohio, Oregon and California.
03-06-2019 , 05:02 PM
aoc is def on the back burner. i haven't been excited about a politician since 2000 nader run. i think i mentioned it before, but i wore his sign on my body, just throughout the day.
03-07-2019 , 01:33 AM
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The most dangerous foreign policy decision of the Trump administration—and I know this is saying a lot—is its decision to share sensitive nuclear technology with Saudi Arabia and authorize U.S. companies to build nuclear reactors in that country.


wtf
03-07-2019 , 01:48 AM
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3...what-they-want
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The narrative being constructed here is a fascinated but disturbing one. Consider the pattern on display:
Sovereignty activists unseat the old Republican guard and take control of the party through Trump during the 2016 election while pushing “populism” to the forefront of the mainstream. They supplant the social justice left who thought they had the world in the palm of their hand. In response, the left goes even more insane; searching for meaning in a world that obviously does not want them, they come to the realization that not only did they run the worst possible candidate in 2016 (Clinton), but their platform was not “extreme enough”. They now plan to not only take down Trump by any means necessary, but they also plan to break down their own “old guard” and rebuild the Democratic party into something openly communist (rather than closet communist).
Of course, this narrative is not reality. Trump didn't push out the old guard neo-con Republicans. In fact, the elites run his administration today through globalist agents like Bolton, Pompeo, Ross, and Mnuchin. The Trump Administration, while perhaps rebellious in its rhetoric, has done nothing to “drain the swamp” in Washington DC. The left is rebelling against a fantasy. There was no populist takeover of the US government; there are no champions for liberty, free markets and individual sovereignty in the White House. Is was all a con game.
But who benefits from the con? The globalists, of course, but how does the "green deal" left play into the scheme?
I thought this was an interesting take on current events. I don't agree with all of his conclusions. Like I've said, I think a Trump re-election in the cards. But his arguments are well reasoned enough. He goes on to argue that the economy is about to tank and that could be the catalyst that pushes people towards even more government control and that the green new deal is a part of that. It's close enough to my own thoughts.

Previously I've had discussions with eyebooger who hadn't considered that Trump and the ruling class/media could all be playing a game...a game that involves more long term narrative and shaping minds than things like money.

Last edited by Luckbox Inc; 03-07-2019 at 01:53 AM.
03-07-2019 , 02:50 AM
"They now plan to not only take down Trump by any means necessary ... The Trump Administration, while perhaps rebellious in its rhetoric, has done nothing to 'drain the swamp' in Washington DC. The left is rebelling against a fantasy."

Uhhhhh
03-07-2019 , 03:59 AM
a comedian made me laugh imitating a vegan... "i don't eat honey or milk cuz i like bees and cows more than the immigrants who pick my vegetables. and they don't have fur. and i'm dumb"
03-07-2019 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by soah
"They now plan to not only take down Trump by any means necessary ... The Trump Administration, while perhaps rebellious in its rhetoric, has done nothing to 'drain the swamp' in Washington DC. The left is rebelling against a fantasy."



Uhhhhh
He means the political fake left not birdman's left if that helps, I think. The point would be that Trump isn't really different than standard politicians yet now we have all this radicalization.
03-07-2019 , 08:45 AM
What do you mean by "all this radicalization"?
03-07-2019 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
What do you mean by "all this radicalization"?
The move of the left away from the center, the "tds" Trump derangement syndrome. The idea that Trump is Hitler, or a Russian agent. The idea that Trump must be stopped at all costs in order to return rule to the more traditional neoliberals. Etc.
03-07-2019 , 11:24 AM
Move of the left away from the center? Examples please.
03-07-2019 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Move of the left away from the center? Examples please.
You post this knowing full well that Bernie Sanders is just a pip shy of Harris in odds to win the Democratic nomination (9:2 vs 5:1 last I checked).
And if AOC could run she would probably win. Moderate democrats are despised (and rightfully so) by a greater percentage of the party than ever before. It all represents a move away from the center.
03-07-2019 , 11:47 AM
In what way is this "radical"?
03-07-2019 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
In what way is this "radical"?
What is with the 20 questions game?

The word I used was radicalization not radical. Perhaps it isn't the best choice of words but polarization isn't exactly what I want either.

Are you trying to argue that changes are not happening within the Democratic party or that it is not moving to the left?
03-07-2019 , 11:59 AM
They are moving closer (not close enough and not fast enough, but yes closer) to domestic policies that people want.

      
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