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02-11-2019 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
And to be sure I'm ok with whatever jokes about whatever

I'm not about to be become someone who cares about stupid ****.
He could say anything, and as long as he's attempting humor, you wouldn't care?
02-11-2019 , 02:33 PM
tbh, Dustin, based on the view you just processed, I can’t figure out what exactly you think racism is then. Unless you are saying it’s not real
02-11-2019 , 02:34 PM
or perhaps you are saying you think racism is real you just don’t care about it
02-11-2019 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Would it be acceptable if Trump tweeted something about how Chuck Schumer should "go back to the Senate CHAMBER"?
I presume that both 1) Chuck Schumer is Jewish and that 2) the tweet would be made only if it were generally known that Schumer was lying about that?

It would be really interesting to see if he could get away with that in that situation?

Probably he wouldn't be able to.
02-11-2019 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
or perhaps you are saying you think racism is real you just don’t care about it
No its real and I care. But I'm driving now and have to be a worker.
02-11-2019 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
No its real and I care. But I'm driving now and have to be a worker.
Do you think making a pun linking his Presidential campaign to the genocide of native Americans could constitute racism?

I mean it’s so much more than just racism but I figured we can start there. Trump is in so many ways supporting the status quo—in words and in actions. He occasionally says or does stuff that is unpredictable largely because he is oblivious, egomaniacal, narcissistic, and likely senile. But at the end of the day he staunchly promotes white supremacy and settler colonialism at every turn to say nothing of his full on inculcation into the imperialist political machine that is DC politics
02-11-2019 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
Do you think making a pun linking his Presidential campaign to the genocide of native Americans could constitute racism?
Probably not in this instance.
02-11-2019 , 03:22 PM
You don't think that was racist!?
02-11-2019 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
You don't think that was racist!?
I would want to see if the Cherokees a lot more Cherokee than me are offended.

I dont think the tweet expresses any animosity towards natives if that is your question. Whether animosity has to be expressed i suppose can be up for debate.
02-11-2019 , 03:56 PM
That’s not what racism is
02-11-2019 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
That’s not what racism is
Trump is oppressing Cherokees in that tweet?
02-11-2019 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
That’s not what racism is
I mean if Cherokees aren't offended and if whether or not animosity is expressed isn't important, then what is it about the tweet that is racist?
02-11-2019 , 04:33 PM
"what about the mocking evocation of racial genocide is racist?"


that's where you are atm
02-11-2019 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
"what about the mocking evocation of racial genocide is racist?"


that's where you are atm
To be sure this is some hyperbole. The Cherokees weren't genocided. The trail of tears is exactly why they are in Oklahoma today. And also for sure it wasn't a good time for them and many died and this is why it is called the trail of tears.

I'm fine calling it culturally insensitive. I think that is pretty easy. Whether it is racist though I'm still waiting on the exact definition from Birdman.
02-11-2019 , 05:18 PM
I love how we are discussing hypothetical antisemitic trope tweets when Omar had to apologize for her actual antisemitic trope comments about Israel and money. But since most of you hate Israel it's more germane to discuss what if trump made an antisemitic tweet
02-11-2019 , 05:22 PM
juxtapose the two tweets



one of them could be read as either antisemitic at worst or insensitive at best

the other can be read only as making fun of an ethnic tragedy




after the first one, an apology and clarification was issued

after the second one....
02-11-2019 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
To be sure this is some hyperbole. The Cherokees weren't genocided. The trail of tears is exactly why they are in Oklahoma today. And also for sure it wasn't a good time for them and many died and this is why it is called the trail of tears.
and the holocaust is why the jews have israel today (though I'm sure it wasn't a good time for them)
02-11-2019 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
and the holocaust is why the jews have israel today (though I'm sure it wasn't a good time for them)
Israel was in the works long before the holocaust, no? Mets?
02-11-2019 , 05:28 PM
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Georgia and the U.S. government prevailed and used it as justification to force almost all of the 17,000 Cherokees from their southeastern homeland

An estimated 4,000 died from hunger, exposure and disease

point of order: not technically a genocide!
02-11-2019 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
To be sure this is some hyperbole. The Cherokees weren't genocided. The trail of tears is exactly why they are in Oklahoma today. And also for sure it wasn't a good time for them and many died and this is why it is called the trail of tears.

I'm fine calling it culturally insensitive. I think that is pretty easy. Whether it is racist though I'm still waiting on the exact definition from Birdman.
there are many cherokees still alive and thriving. but the genocide of native americans is probably the worst example of genocide in human history.... i mean of course besides ilhan omar's tweet that pro israel positions in DC "are all about the Benjamins"
02-11-2019 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
I love how we are discussing hypothetical antisemitic trope tweets when Omar had to apologize for her actual antisemitic trope comments about Israel and money. But since most of you hate Israel it's more germane to discuss what if trump made an antisemitic tweet
Nobody ****ing cares what you think
02-11-2019 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
I love how we are discussing hypothetical antisemitic trope tweets when Omar had to apologize for her actual antisemitic trope comments about Israel and money. But since most of you hate Israel it's more germane to discuss what if trump made an antisemitic tweet
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
juxtapose the two tweets



one of them could be read as either antisemitic at worst or insensitive at best

the other can be read only as making fun of an ethnic tragedy




after the first one, an apology and clarification was issued

after the second one....
Just about all that needs to be said.

Mets, you can't honestly approve of that Trump tweet, can you?
02-11-2019 , 06:04 PM
Ilhan's statement, so that everyone is speaking the same language.


https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1095046561254567937
02-11-2019 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Israel was in the works long before the holocaust, no? Mets?
It was, but i doubt Britain would have relinquished control if not for the holocaust
02-11-2019 , 06:13 PM
Yes that's her apology forced by pelosi and schumer. Not her orginal statement

Trump making fun of warrens Indian heritage is annoying. Don't think it was meant as racist. Using trail was definitely in poor taste i agree

Did we mention itt that there is now evidence that she did use native American on applications to gain favor even though she denied it for 2 years? She's irrelevant, trump shouldn't make posts that only his base will cheer no argument

I'm pretty sure harris is the only serious candidate that has a shot at this point.

Her being criticized for not beimg "black enough" is proof that she can win

And even though i disagree with he most of the time, she comes off as smart, confident, and assertive without being whiny like Hillary and Warren come off.

      
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