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Old Today, 05:06 PM   #15101
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Proletarian Revolution leading to socialist utopia, ldo.

Perennial post.
I know you are a smart guy, I want to make that clear. But you do know how stupid this post (and the 10+ similar to it that you have made) make you sound right? I even politiely addressed it the first few times you made it.
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Old Today, 05:08 PM   #15102
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i understand why she voted for pelosi. it was a compromise. and i do like compromising. but voting for pelosi is way too much. way way way too much. pelosi stands for horrible nightmare evil.

ideally, aoc or anyone else, would stand up to our system of normalized nightmare evil. i don't know if there was somone better to vote for, but she at least could have said "i refuse to vote for pelosi because x, y, and z. we need to do a lot better than pelosi if we are going to live in a just world, or even live in a world at all. the pelosis are leading us off a cliff. i'm not going to vote for someone who is just gonna lead us off the cliff a little more gently"
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Old Today, 05:14 PM   #15103
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This wasn't meant to be a rhetorical. I honestly want to know what BM and filthy think AOC should have done regarding her vote for speaker and what they think the pros and cons of that decision would be.
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i understand why she voted for pelosi. it was a compromise. and i do like compromising. but voting for pelosi is way too much. way way way too much. pelosi stands for horrible nightmare evil.

ideally, aoc or anyone else, would stand up to our system of normalized nightmare evil. i don't know if there was somone better to vote for, but she at least could have said "i refuse to vote for pelosi because x, y, and z. we need to do a lot better than pelosi if we are going to live in a just world, or even live in a world at all. the pelosis are leading us off a cliff. i'm not going to vote for someone who is just gonna lead us off the cliff a little more gently"
pros:

millions of people who know and understand that our mega wealthy leaders are f*cking us over will see that we have an ally and a representative in aoc

she will be voting(not voting) for what is best

she will be separating from business as usual politics/govt that we all despise

she will actually be representing working class people like she claims


cons:

blowback from all politicians. powerful house speaker nancy pelosi will see her as an enemy who can't be worked with
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Old Today, 05:17 PM   #15104
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Re: POG Politics Thread

i know you guys largely think me and birdman are idiots. but come on, he makes an excellent point about taking a stand over 5 billion for border wall, but caving on ICE????? that is a ridiculous position.

why compromise on ICE and not compromise on border wall?
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Old Today, 05:18 PM   #15105
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And as others have pointed out, this was a one month spending bill as oppossed to a multi-generational money sink that voting for the wall would turn into.
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