Hopefully everyone takes a moment to reflect on where they were and what imperialist drivel they were listening to when Russia annexed Crimea and were told that the US was definitely not the bad guys

idk anything about her voting to fund ice. i do know her vote for pelosi was weak as f*ck!! voting for ice was probably weak as **** too. pretty disappointing.

i thought she was more than just obama 2.0.... i still think she might be. maybe im stupid.

Didn’t she practically run her campaign on abolishing ICE? She’s been in office for like a few months and is already voting to fund it. Isn’t she just a liar?

abolishing ice was part of her campaign. for sure. hella lame she voted to fund it. when did she vote for it?

She voted for a bill to open the government and end the hostage situation. Stuff like abolishing ICE can be discussed after the government is open.

Curious what the alternative to voting for Pelosi was.

There were a handful of random votes, including “present”.

Crystal clear Pelosi was going to win tho so why protest vote and jeopardize your committee assignments?

Dont you know in BM world that everything is a perfect shade of black or white? AOC voted for a spending bill to end the government shutdown, which included funding for ICE. Therefore she is a neoliberal hack who has duped her constituents in order to... support Ukraine somehow?

Wake up sheeple

She voted to fund DHS which includes ICE

Weird logic from Master and Eyeboger m here. The entire Democratic Party is ok making a stand and keeping the government shutdown to avoid funding Trumps wall. But taking a stand and not refusing to fund ICE is suddenly a stupid idea even though it’s exacrly what AOC campaigned on

It's literally one month of funding.

Setting you concentration camps and operating like the gestapo?

“Hey go and and fund that—better to keeps the imperialist machine up and running. We can worry about little details like concentration camps later” says Master

“A wall?!? Omg shut it down! No compromises!”

Why vote yes for it? If it’s so insignificant why vote for any bill that continues to fund ICE?

DHS employees are considered essential, so they're still working right now regardless of whether or not that bill becomes law.

Any combo of:

1) She might think all the other government employees should be getting paid right now, and creating a new standoff won't get that done

2) She recognizes that she lacks support for ending ICE/this is a stupid time to make a stand on that issue

3) That bill was symbolic anyway because it was never going to become law, and adding unnecessary distractions makes it less likely to achieve its goal of putting pressure on Trump/showing that Democrats can govern

4) It has no practical consequences as far as ICE is concerned anyway

And to you it’s worth them getting paid over stopping what ICE is doing but it’s not worth them getting paid over funding 10% of Trumps wall?

There has been no attempt to compromise. Are you saying the laughable idea of three years of Daca for wall funding was a compromise attempt made in good faith?

Does she not have a duty to serve her constituents who are government employees?

For soomeome who seemed physically incapable of understanding the binary nature of the 2016 presidential election, your black and white thinking is sure showing strong today, BM.

In that case there literally were two possible options for outcomes. In this one, there is nowhere close to a binary choice of build wall/dont build wall. Yet here we are.

The only explanation here, Master is that you don’t actually understand what ICE is and why AOC campaigned on abolishing it

lol master you are actually just a liberalism cliche ticker:

“Pragmatism”
“Duty to her constituents”
“Lesser of two evils, no other choice”

Etc etc

people wonder why when someone like AOC or another democrat writes some bull**** on a website I don’t care. They quote her alleged policies at me and demand I find fault with them. They mean nothing. There is no evil that can’t be supported in the name of pragmatism, no overt fasism that can’t be shuffled through in the name of expediency. There is nothing a liberal can’t kick down the road in the name of “we need to do X now we can worry about Y later”

Words mean nothing, especially when coming from liberals like AOC. We are living in a cruel world indeed when making sure we pay the employees of an Imperialist government institution that was created to fight the absurd “war on terror” takes presidence over abolishing the overtly fascist institution ICE.

Believe whatever you want but no need to lie. Just admit abolishing ICE is merely an afterthought to you if it is even that

If AOC is in truth a socialist as everyone itt seems desperate to have me concede, she should not be agreeing to fund the DHS at all much less ICE. For that matter, she should not be supporting any funding to the military.

But she is not a socialist, she is a liberal. And not even that progressive of one.

Wonder why he doesn't apply that thinking to the one guy who could unilaterally stop all of this immediately

Proletarian Revolution leading to socialist utopia, ldo.

Perennial post.

This wasn't meant to be a rhetorical. I honestly want to know what BM and filthy think AOC should have done regarding her vote for speaker and what they think the pros and cons of that decision would be.