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11-24-2018 , 10:56 AM

#14426

Luckbox Inc

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I'm glad you appreciated that DW.

And the really funny thing is its like 50. Not even really that cold here.

11-24-2018 , 11:00 AM

#14427

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Level with me for a minute, for my sanity, because I can't take it any more: you were putting us on with that right? You're just play acting for your amusement?

11-24-2018 , 11:02 AM

#14428

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

It also works from massive injections of money from think tanks and non-profits controlled by powerful interests.

https://twitter.com/scottwesterfeld/...781348865?s=21

11-24-2018 , 11:03 AM

#14429

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Originally Posted by DWetzel

Level with me for a minute, for my sanity, because I can't take it any more: you were putting us on with that right? You're just play acting for your amusement?

No. I think the idea that Phoenix will be uninhabitable in 30 years to be akin to the ideas that Florida will be underwater and the Himalayan streams dried up.

11-24-2018 , 11:05 AM

#14430

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

It also works from massive injections of money from think tanks and non-profits controlled by powerful interests.

WTF are you talking about? You're describing the opposition to climate change research.

Last edited by eyebooger; 11-24-2018 at 11:06 AM. Reason: TN funds the opposition to my pony

11-24-2018 , 11:08 AM

#14431

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

WTF are you talking about? You're describing the opposition to climate change research.

Wtf is correct.

How many much money do you think is spent on climate change research vs opposition to climate change research?

11-24-2018 , 11:12 AM

#14432

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https://www.gao.gov/mobile/key_issue.../issue_summary

Billions it would seem. 11.6 billion in 2014 and they've been spending billions/year since the early 90s.

Of course why would the government fund this since they are controlled by the corporate interests you think oppose climate change?

And this of course is just us govt funding, not foundation funding, un, and other international groups.

11-24-2018 , 11:21 AM

#14433

DWetzel

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So?

11-24-2018 , 11:30 AM

#14434

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So?

I think the question of which interests are promoting the climate narrative is a pretty important one.

You are all under the assumption that climate change has been supported by 'the world's scientists' who are fighting the powerful oil companies.

In reality climate change research has been promoted through massive amounts of government funding, with support from the corporate controlled msm, think tanks, etc.

11-24-2018 , 11:38 AM

#14435

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nah

11-24-2018 , 11:40 AM

#14436

Luckbox Inc

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What part of my post are you disagreeing with?

11-24-2018 , 11:41 AM

#14437

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

So what are you insinuating here?

That scientists in the field are lying about their data? That they're measuring the wrong things? That their conclusions are flawed?

11-24-2018 , 11:50 AM

#14438

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

What part of my post are you disagreeing with?

the parts where you spoke, but especially the last paragraph and also the first two

11-24-2018 , 11:51 AM

#14439

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

So what are you insinuating here?

That scientists in the field are lying about their data? That they're measuring the wrong things? That their conclusions are flawed?

Let's say that while I have tons of reservations about the veracity of any data, that the insinuation is that regardless of the veracity of the data, that the climate change narrative has been something that has been promoted and nurtured by the ruling class. I think that is something that should be fairly apparent.

11-24-2018 , 11:53 AM

#14440

DWetzel

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I did give it all the consideration and deep thought that you did

and decided nah

11-24-2018 , 11:57 AM

#14441

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It's ironic dw that you should come here and accuse me of trolling

11-24-2018 , 11:57 AM

#14442

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nah

ironic would be if you weren't and I was

11-24-2018 , 11:59 AM

#14443

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nah

ironic would be if you weren't and I was

Yes that is what I'm getting at

11-24-2018 , 12:02 PM

#14444

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I've thought about it very deeply and decided that the last time I saw a weather report on Phoenix it was in fact really hot, and that if you think about it really aren't you the one being funded by shady corporate masterminds? I mean you can't prove you aren't. So it seems clear that I have to disagree with you and go with my gut on that, no matter how obviously absurd it may seem on its face, and how illogical such a thought process might be.

And how dare you, of all people, accuse such a thought process, disregarding the globalist overlords that are controlling your brain, trolling.

11-24-2018 , 12:05 PM

#14445

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eyebooger

So what are you insinuating here?

That scientists in the field are lying about their data? That they're measuring the wrong things? That their conclusions are flawed?

There have been instances of numbers being fudged...major scandals afaiu. I also think that in general if you throw enough money at something you will get the results you want. Scientists understand where their bread is buttered just the same as everyone else so I think it would be foolish to discount the role that money has played.

11-24-2018 , 12:09 PM

#14446

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For luckbox only

Spoiler:

11-24-2018 , 12:15 PM

#14447

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

There have been instances of numbers being fudged...major scandals afaiu.

Gonna have to ask you to show your work here.

11-24-2018 , 12:32 PM

#14448

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eyebooger

Science doesn't work by random anecdotes and feelings. It works through analysis of data.

But it's often wromg.
That's why science said eat red meat 5 times per week, that ny would be uninhabitable by 2010. Etc

11-24-2018 , 12:35 PM

#14449

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

It's ironic dw that you should come here and accuse me of trolling

But he will insist he isnt, or your opinions are so stupid that they deserve to be trolled

Or he will really think he's being civil

11-24-2018 , 12:54 PM

#14450

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

But it's often wromg.
That's why science said eat red meat 5 times per week, that ny would be uninhabitable by 2010. Etc

gonna have to ask you to show your work here

Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

But he will insist he isnt, or your opinions are so stupid that they deserve to be trolled

Or he will really think he's being civil

Scurrilous personal attack, which I look forward to exactly **** all being done about it because it's directed at me.

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