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11-12-2018 , 10:09 PM

#14076

filthyvermin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

Why won't those nasty British let Assange leave the embassy?

are you arguing that assange has the choice to be arrested and tortured by usa?

11-12-2018 , 10:38 PM

#14077

master3004

Revisionist Historian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

So McSalley officially lost. Iirc almost every network called it a win for her on election night or am i misremembering?

I can't think of one. Every one I saw had it as too close to call at the end of election night

11-12-2018 , 10:41 PM

#14078

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by filthyvermin

ah, ok. the resale angle makes more sense. thanks. my mind is working even less well than it normally does.

anyway.....

chris hedges is probably the best journalist alive. here is his latest essay. it's about julian assange. he is being tortured in london right now

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/cr...ulian-assange/

Lulz

11-13-2018 , 01:45 AM

#14079

Birdman10687

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Sounds like Israel just firebombed a bunch of civilaians in Gaza

11-13-2018 , 08:39 AM

#14080

kokiri

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Quote:

Originally Posted by filthyvermin

are you arguing that assange has the choice to be arrested and tortured by usa?

The American angle is total fiction by him. He's wanted by Sweden to answer a charge of rape. He's not a political prisoner, he's a self obsessed attention junkie and suspected sex criminal.

11-13-2018 , 08:58 AM

#14081

filthyvermin

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Originally Posted by kokiri

The American angle is total fiction by him. He's wanted by Sweden to answer a charge of rape. He's not a political prisoner, he's a self obsessed attention junkie and suspected sex criminal.

im pretty sure those swedish charges were dropped. that's what the article says. he is no longer wanted by sweden.

11-13-2018 , 09:35 AM

#14082

iamnotawerewolf

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My understanding is that the US govt hates him but had no basis on which to bring charges, and that Sweden had him on rape but they aren't pursuing him while he's on asylum (not that he has been exonerated).

11-13-2018 , 10:37 AM

#14083

Crossnerd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

Except they get room and board whether they work or not

Stop saying this. You are disgusting.

11-13-2018 , 10:39 AM

#14084

Crossnerd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

He's again not talking about race

He is talking about race, but neither of you (especially you) are bright enough to see how that fits into the equation at the moment, and its baffling in ianaww's case for sure.

11-13-2018 , 10:40 AM

#14085

Crossnerd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by filthyvermin

cosmetics? you mean like people stealing make up? lipstick and foundation or whatever?

jfc that is ****ing awful. HELLA sexist

assuming it's mostly women...

Not the point either

11-13-2018 , 10:42 AM

#14086

Crossnerd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Slighted

saying they should be paid minimum wage is not only basic human decency but it makes inmates feel like actual humans which helps with the rehabilitation process. this isnt a particularly difficult issue, you are either a rehabilitionist or a retributionist. if you are the former than you should understand that creating an indentured servant type environment does little to help the psyche of the person being rehabilitated. if you are a retributionist than you have larger problems than this you should probably deal with..

there are no logical reasons to exempt prisons from having to pay minimum wage. and there are even less reasons to exempt a PRIVATE corporation from paying inmates a living wage and profiting from their work. the company town, we provide your housing argument, again, shouldn't exempt you from treating people like human beings.

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11-13-2018 , 10:45 AM

#14087

Crossnerd

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I hate so much that argument that says prisoners want to be prisoners and homeless want to be homeless and drug addicts want to be drug addicts etc. Such level 1 thinking by people who hate other people imho.

11-13-2018 , 10:59 AM

#14088

Birdman10687

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Originally Posted by Crossnerd

One of the cornerstones of capitalist ideology is that people are where they are because they chose to be, or at the very least, as a result of choices they made.

This line of thinking is required in order to justify the widespread suffering of so many people. The same way religion was used during feudal times to justify obvious ****ty and unfair outcomes of the system. The religion of today is liberalism.

11-13-2018 , 12:17 PM

#14089

Luckbox Inc

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

I met an Afghani-American yesterday whose mom escaped from Afghanistan when she was nine with four kids, leaving her husband behind. They made it to Pakistan and got asylum in the US and were really poor. The mom worked at a sandwich shop and the girl is now a doctor.

11-13-2018 , 12:26 PM

#14090

Crossnerd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Birdman10687

Honey, the "religion" of the day is still just religion. We're not going anywhere until everyone collectively gives up on the spaghetti monster stuff.

11-13-2018 , 12:30 PM

#14091

Birdman10687

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossnerd

Honey, the "religion" of the day is still just religion. We're not going anywhere until everyone collectively gives up on the spaghetti monster stuff.

The second largest religious group in North America is “none” and it is growing faster than any other religion.

11-13-2018 , 12:31 PM

#14092

Birdman10687

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

What is the point of this story?

11-13-2018 , 12:34 PM

#14093

Crossnerd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Birdman10687

What is the point of this story?

Leave the husband behind is what I took from it.

11-13-2018 , 12:35 PM

#14094

metsandfinsfan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Birdman10687

Sounds like Israel just firebombed a bunch of civilaians in Gaza

Sounds like hamas attacked israel first but you ignore that as usual

11-13-2018 , 12:36 PM

#14095

metsandfinsfan

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Sounds like aoc is mad that amazon is bringing 25k jobs to ny because jobs are evil

11-13-2018 , 12:36 PM

#14096

Crossnerd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Birdman10687

The second largest religious group in North America is “none” and it is growing faster than any other religion.

Which is fine, but the rest of America believes in an ancient magic book, the original 'you don't work you don't eat'..

11-13-2018 , 12:39 PM

#14097

Crossnerd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

Sounds like hamas attacked israel first but you ignore that as usual

BM just fell into mets' favorite defense, the 'but x did it first!'

11-13-2018 , 12:40 PM

#14098

Birdman10687

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Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

Sounds like hamas attacked israel first but you ignore that as usual

Uhhhh wrong? Israeli soldiers killed seven civilians and injured 252 on Friday and then Israel stopped delivering fuel to Gaza. You are so full of **** Mets it’s a joke

11-13-2018 , 12:42 PM

#14099

Birdman10687

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossnerd

Which is fine, but the rest of America believes in an ancient magic book, the original 'you don't work you don't eat'..

Ok. I don’t disagree with you—the point of my post was not to say religion is dead.

11-13-2018 , 12:43 PM

#14100

Birdman10687

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Also, regardless that is such a stupid opinion. “Palestine damaged some farms so Israel fire bombed Palestinian civilians, that is totally fair and reasonable”

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