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09-21-2018 , 02:36 PM
And nobody cares that this woman wished to remain anonymous but was forced to come forward after reporters knocked on her door saying it was leaked to them that it was her

Nobody cares about this at all right
09-21-2018 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
It isn't even alleged that he raped her but keep up the silly hypotheticals
Sorry Mets, nice pedantry.

Are you saying that if he did indeed attempt to rape her, you think it would be a tough question whether he should be on the SC?
09-21-2018 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
And nobody cares that this woman wished to remain anonymous but was forced to come forward after reporters knocked on her door saying it was leaked to them that it was her

Nobody cares about this at all right
Why are you working so hard to exonerate this dude? I’m honestly curious.
09-21-2018 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
imo this is why you are getting flack. We have already discussed how accusation of rape are almost always legit (92-98% of the time). Yet her accusation is not enough for you to believe that he should not be on the SC. No one, as far as I can tell, is saying he should be thrown in jail without a trial, just that maybe he is not a good person to be an SC Justice. You continuing to doubt her and act like there isn’t evidence etc when false rape allegations are extremely rare demonstrates misogyny.
There's nothing to doubt neither you nor i have seen her statement or know whether it is credible.

Why wouldn't you want to hear that first

Why not
09-21-2018 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
WTF at chanting "no means yes; yes means anal" in front of the university women's center.

**** banning the fraternity. Should have expelled everyone involved.
It was actually two separate organizations

He was part of a frat where he participated in breaking into women’s rooms and stealing their underwear while they weren’t there

He was also part of an all male club that publicly chanted “no mean yes, yes means anal” in front of the women’s center
09-21-2018 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
Why are you working so hard to exonerate this dude? I’m honestly curious.
Cause believe it or not im about liberty before all else and this woman had the right to remain anonymous but it was leaked and now she is forced to be in a position she doesn't want to be in

The fact that she got death threats is disgusting.

But why does nobody care about the leaker?

Why

Politics before liberty
09-21-2018 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
There's nothing to doubt neither you nor i have seen her statement or know whether it is credible.

Why wouldn't you want to hear that first

Why not
There is nothing to doubt yet you are posting things line “why did she try to remain anonymous”

Sounds like you are hard at work trying to doubt SOMETHING, Metsy
09-21-2018 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Cause believe it or not im about liberty before all else and this woman had the right to remain anonymous but it was leaked and now she is forced to be in a position she doesn't want to be in

The fact that she got death threats is disgusting.

But why does nobody care about the leaker?

Why

Politics before liberty
To be clear, is your question “why do people care more about the actual rapist than a person who leaked information”?

And are you also unclear that the position she really did not want to be in was fending off a rapist at a party?
09-21-2018 , 02:42 PM
By the way i almost posted this morning that it was so refreshing to see the president actually handle this better than the rest of washington but i thought better and of course he ****s it up today by opening his stupid mouth. He just cannot help himself, SAD!
09-21-2018 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Cause believe it or not im about liberty before all else and this woman had the right to remain anonymous
You seem more concerned with the liberty of a rapist than the liberty of a rape victim and more concerned with this woman’s right to be anonymous than with her right to her own body. It is fine to prioritize things. You are making it sound like people can’t care about two things at once. What I think is actually happening is your are obsessing about small issues in an effort to ignore the much larger issue
09-21-2018 , 02:46 PM
I’d also take issue with your comment about “liberty”.

This guy is not facing jail time, he is facing not getting confirmed for the Supreme Court. So I’m not sure why you are babbling about liberty
09-21-2018 , 02:47 PM
I’m imaging a break in happening where the person who broke in also rapes someone and Mets is over here like “forget about the rape, why does no one care that this dude broke into someone’s home!!!!!!”
09-21-2018 , 02:47 PM
Do you believe george tkies accuser
Do you believe ryan Seacrest accuser
Do you believe the 15 les Moonves accuses
Do you believe the Harvey Weinstein accuser

Again last time il say this

He has no pattern for this. Doesn't make him innocent

But one accuser with zero witnesses and no pattern of behavior means id like to hear her speak about how sure she is that it's him

I do believe the incident likely happened. It very well could have been kavanaugh but maybe she's mistaken. Or maybe she's not

You all want an investigation but don't want to hear her?
There's a good chance il hear her, believe she's credible, and then say he shouldn't be confirmed

But no let's not hear her, let's go back to Salem with trial days or mccartyyism and anyone who is accused of anything is guilty without trial
09-21-2018 , 02:48 PM
See this is what you do

You don't get it

I pity you

Bye
09-21-2018 , 02:50 PM
Mets, I’m not sure if you are doing it consciously but you do realize why people are accusing you of deflecting, right? You brought up that Corey Booker molested some people which is totally unrelated, you brought up the fact that someone violated her anonymity which doesn’t change the fact that Kav tried to rape her, you brought up that Feinstein sat on the information which doesn’t change the fact that Kav tried to rape her, etc etc

What is the goal of constantly bringing up stuff like this? Why are you trying to distract from the absolutely most important part of this who thing which is that a man who is set to be an SC justice attempted to rape somenone? It’s like you are hoping that the mere appearance of impropriety will win you points with an imaginary jury
09-21-2018 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Do you believe george tkies accuser
Do you believe ryan Seacrest accuser
Do you believe the 15 les Moonves accuses
Do you believe the Harvey Weinstein accuser

Again last time il say this

He has no pattern for this. Doesn't make him innocent

But one accuser with zero witnesses and no pattern of behavior means id like to hear her speak about how sure she is that it's him

I do believe the incident likely happened. It very well could have been kavanaugh but maybe she's mistaken. Or maybe she's not

You all want an investigation but don't want to hear her?
There's a good chance il hear her, believe she's credible, and then say he shouldn't be confirmed

But no let's not hear her, let's go back to Salem with trial days or mccartyyism and anyone who is accused of anything is guilty without trial
I’ve said it maybe 10 times but you keep ignoring it. No one is on trial, no one is facing jail time or a conviction, Kav’s liberty is not in jeopardy, there is no jury, there is no judge, there is no trial going on. You are completely unhinged
09-21-2018 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
It was actually two separate organizations



He was part of a frat where he participated in breaking into women’s rooms and stealing their underwear while they weren’t there



He was also part of an all male club that publicly chanted “no mean yes, yes means anal” in front of the women’s center


I think you’ll find he wasn’t involved in that, had no awareness that the people he hung around with all the time were doing it, and is shocked, shocked to discover it was going on

/SharpestLegalMinds
/AsleepAtTheBench
/AmIStillCoolYo?
/VoteToApproveOneTime
09-21-2018 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
It was actually two separate organizations

He was part of a frat where he participated in breaking into women’s rooms and stealing their underwear while they weren’t there

He was also part of an all male club that publicly chanted “no mean yes, yes means anal” in front of the women’s center
of course trump loves him
09-21-2018 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Do you believe george tkies accuser
Do you believe ryan Seacrest accuser
Do you believe the 15 les Moonves accuses
Do you believe the Harvey Weinstein accuser
Can you please explain why you keep asking questions like this? How does this relate to what is being discussed
09-21-2018 , 02:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Cause believe it or not im about liberty before all else and this woman had the right to remain anonymous but it was leaked and now she is forced to be in a position she doesn't want to be in



The fact that she got death threats is disgusting.



But why does nobody care about the leaker?



Why



Politics before liberty


Cool story bro.

Let’s deal with the most important court seat in the land first, and then we can deal with the hacks.
09-21-2018 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
He has no pattern for this.
Did you see that thing I posted about the rape club he was in?
09-21-2018 , 03:04 PM
Doug Jones
Democrat
671,151 49.9%

Roy Moore
Republican
650,436 48.4%
09-21-2018 , 03:05 PM
The fact that Mets does not realize that the reason the leak is a problem in the first place is because of the fact that people like him continuously put the “liberty” of the man in question ahead of any and all questions about her liberty or privacy or basic safety in a situation like this is really unfortunate

Also no one is arguing we shouldn’t hear her story, except the Republican senators who say that we have to hear her story on a very specific political timeline in a forum of their choosing with only the witnesses and investigation that they deem appropriate or else we should just confirm him
09-21-2018 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
Also no one is arguing we shouldn’t hear her story, except the Republican senators who say that we have to hear her story on a very specific political timeline in a forum of their choosing with only the witnesses and investigation that they deem appropriate or else we should just confirm him
OMFG this.
09-21-2018 , 03:09 PM
And if you believe that there is a single republican senator who actually wants a full, fair, transparent investigation of this made available to the public then you are as blinkered politically as Dustin claims we all are - none of them want that because the politics for them if that happens go from pretty bad to absolutely abysmal

      
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