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Old 08-09-2018, 04:43 PM   #5376
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more russia sanctions, sounds like trump is putin's puppet, amirite?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45122723
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:39 PM   #5377
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If by the left you mean people like Birdman doesn't he specifically claim things like this?
No. Birdman thinks everyone but hardcore socialists is the right...which in one sense he is right. He probably does believe in authoritarian tactics to advance his aims, but I'm talking about the MSM fake left (which also believes in authoritarian tactics).

It gets really awkward though to say the right is going after conservatives.

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Old 08-09-2018, 08:10 PM   #5378
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Mets really approves of Trump!
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:23 PM   #5379
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there's way to much derp on this page for me to even concentrate on a post. im giving up until the next page.
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Old 08-10-2018, 02:53 AM   #5380
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Black unemployment is at 6.8%, the lowest in history since it started being reported (1973)

It was about 8% when obama took over, spiked to over 16% in 2010 and was back down to about 8% when obama left office. It is now 6.8%. the previous low was 7% under george w bush in 2000

hispanic unemployment was 9% when obama took over in 08, went as high as 16.6 in 2010, and closed the year 2016 at 7.9% under obama. it is now at 6.9%, a figure never reached under obama

i am sure you will argue that trump's policies are irrelevant to this, that these numbers improved to record levels despite trumps policies

are you also going to argue that his policies made things worse tho?

fewer minorities are on public assistance. more are employed

that is why his approval rating has gone up with these groups despite the msm
So Obama improved unemployment by 8 points and Trump has improved it by 1, and that's a ****ing accomplishment? You're ****ing warped mate
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Old 08-10-2018, 03:36 AM   #5381
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he was an advisor for ford, reagan, bush, and dole. so no it doesnt make trump look bad at all



there was no muslim ban



****hole countries is not racist. there are plenty of ****hole neighboorhoods that have white people.



the good people on both sides comment was beyond dumb


Cliffs: not much makes trump look bad in your eyes.
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:34 AM   #5382
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****hole countries is not racist.
Here was the quote:
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"Why are we having all these people from ****hole countries come here?"
"****hole countries" wasn't the part that made it unquestionably racist. "Why" was.

Especially after he followed it up with asking why couldn't we have more immigration from places like Norway.

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"Why do we need more Haitians?" Trump said, according to people familiar with the meeting. "Take them out."
Insanely racist.
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:08 AM   #5383
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Seems like a comment/question on sociocio economic status.

We obviously assume it's racist because it's Trump, so it probably is.

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Old 08-10-2018, 07:16 AM   #5384
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The Papa John's thing came up and if it was racist or not. I thought the comment was incredibly mundane and more like "People in the 1800s said N***** a lot". It's probably a secondary language meaning like how you assume someone who says "ain't" or "know what I'm saying" is less educated and not the actual phrase. And also a read on the individual itself.

Also if you wrote an algorithm of if a term would be determined racist I'm sure the number of people who hear the phrase would be involved, probably because it's socially advantageous to remove yourself and show you aren't racist.
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:26 AM   #5385
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Here was the quote:

"****hole countries" wasn't the part that made it unquestionably racist. "Why" was.

Especially after he followed it up with asking why couldn't we have more immigration from places like Norway.



Insanely racist.
I saw something interesting recently on the racism Haitians face even from Dominicans.. Where there are markets set up on the border to encourage trade, the Haitians aren't allowed to set up shop before their Dominican counterparts and Haitians in the Dominican are mistreated.

This was it.
https://youtu.be/4WvKeYuwifc
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:35 AM   #5386
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Seems like a comment/question on sociocio economic status.

We obviously assume it's racist because it's Trump, so it probably is.
everything trump does is racist amirite?
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:38 PM   #5387
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everything trump does is racist amirite?


Nope, some of itís sexist and a fair amount is just idiotic. But most of it is about feeding trumpís various insecurities
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:45 PM   #5388
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Does it even matter if Trump is confirmed racist or not, as long as he keeps the economy going?
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Old 08-10-2018, 01:27 PM   #5389
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The economy is currently powered by 52% liberal hatred, and 48% republican **** you if you think Iím backing down.
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Old 08-10-2018, 02:18 PM   #5390
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Survival is a strong motivation.
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Old 08-10-2018, 03:52 PM   #5391
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Ianaww,

What are your thoughts on Alex Jones/infowars being banned on most social media
The man is toxic. He is an admitted charlatan and an unrepentant doomsayer. He has zero journalistic integrity, yet he portrays himself as the savior of news media. He convinces broad swaths of insecure and/or ignorant people to believe the worst about others; he captures healthy skepticism and corrupts it into a fatalistic misanthropy.

His sole redeeming quality, sheer entertainment value, is grossly outweighed by the social detriment he sews in holding himself out as one telling truth-to-power.

If I ran a newspaper, I would not publish his editorials.

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and do you agree that as a result of that, that I was correct in my assessment that the left wanting to stifle freedom of thought
Aside from my issue with using the phrase, "the left", I guess a soft "yes" is appropriate, in that most people want to stifle freedom of thought - I don't want you to think about robbing me, for example.

Technically, what we (charitably) see here is not an attack on freedom of thought but on freedom of expression. Still, I don't want you to tell everybody that I fornicate with pigs or that I pointed a gun at you.

The stroke, "to stifle freedom of thought/expression", is too broadly applied the way you are doing so. We are not presented with a situation in which one presents evidence and then is excluded from the public space simply because the evidence makes people uncomfortable. Our situation is rather one in which one fabricates evidence, is exposed for fabricating said evidence (or said evidence is so facially ridiculous that nobody could reasonably believe it to be true, ie "Obama attracts flies because he is a literal demon"), and then continues to propound such evidence to some drastic and destructive end.

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shouldn't even be a debate?
oh sweet irony

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Old 08-10-2018, 04:57 PM   #5392
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Counterpoint, if enough people believe it...

Anyone a fan of making lying a criminal offense? It's even a commandment!
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:30 PM   #5393
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that would make it hard to play ww
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:31 PM   #5394
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not the way I wolf
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:39 PM   #5395
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A lot of hedging there ianaww
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:47 PM   #5396
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cliffs:

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What are your thoughts on Alex Jones/infowars being banned on most social media
good riddance

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do you agree that as a result of that, that I was correct in my assessment that the left wanting to stifle freedom of thought
no, not in the way you assess it
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:19 PM   #5397
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I only used the "stifling freedom of thought" verbiage as that was what you originally used when discussing your friend. I would probably just call it censorship.
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:01 PM   #5398
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there's way to much derp on this page for me to even concentrate on a post. im giving up until the next page.
Every time I feel myself getting riled up by it, I just remember the time mets really snidely tried to correct me re the meaning of "couldn't care less"

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If you couldn't care less it means you care more than anyone else

Mensa
and it works like a sort of serenity now
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:14 PM   #5399
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:14 PM   #5400
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And now, thanks to young folks trying to cause some semantic drift, we have " I literally couldn't care less."
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