IANAW 2020: genocide in Yemen, but Americans have healthcare

The point btw is that the revolution won't be televised. The media won't make a star out of anyone who doesn't toe the line, imo.

You don't see it as re-opening the door to the term? To removing the mass stigma and enabling a conversation about it to resume?

I don't really ever get Birdman's line on sovereignty between North Korea and Cuba and the USA and Israel. First two great isolationist Nations second two evil for even existing and also evil if they try being isolationist?

Assuming we get to universal healthcare who decides what the best health care plan (meaning course of action of treatment) is for each person and what's covered?

I'll start and throw out I think each individual should get to decide what's covered and what their best course of treatment is.

Yes exactly, I’m making a point. You are not have a discussion in good faith.

Yeah you would have to know the history of each to see why they are different.

it depends how long ago the land was conquered

it depends if it fits a particular narrative

it depends on the race of the conquerors

it depends if the country starts with a vowel

"having a discussion in good faith" became a bad faith comment very quickly

You are so intellectually lazy

IMO the "lazy" and "simple" answers are way more often correct than the creative complex narratives that people concoct. Though people do like to seem clever.

Pwns/IANAW do you really not understand the difference between an area colonized by settlers from Europe and one like Cuba or the DPRK?

If your argument is simply “might makes right” and that the ability to take something by force means it’s yours, the ok. But let’s at least be honest that that is your position.

“Creative complex narratives” like world history?

What was that about good faith?

Lol, you gotta be trolling now. Have to.

If you aren't trolling, then my god.

You said this like you weren’t sure. But clearly already had these in the queue:

You are already set in what you think. Fine. But that is what I mean when I say you are intellectually lazy. Easier to attribute absurd arguments to someone who challenges your views than actually learn/consider their position.

Hmm birdman said something that I don’t agree with? I’ll just invent arguments for him that are clearly stupid so I feel smart and right.

That’s lazy iyam.

I feel like when you're criticizing a US congressional candidate for failing to campaign on a platform of international worker solidarity you might also not really be having a discussion in good faith.

Well, maybe that's not quite right. I don't doubt your sincerity, it's just that your premises are so divorced from reality that I don't know that it's possible to have a productive discussion about them. Or at least the only possible discussion is whether or not anything short of the revolution is an acceptable mode of political activism.

But I think you should accept that others who disagree with your premises on these points are also discussing in good faith, despite the fact that they reject your premises as absurd or unproductive. You may not be able to have the conversation you want to have with them, because of that disagreement, but that's not really bad faith.

What claim do you believe the US or Israel has to the land they call their country beyond raw force?

I understand it's a way for you to link whatever USA or Israel does is evil no matter what. I don't blame you, it's your commie brain. Link things to evil and dismiss. Commie is never good faith. Commie is leveraging power. Commie will get its way no matter how many purges.

WN do you want me to go back on this page and quote all the arguments that have been attributed to me as a rhetorical device that I in fact never made?

Commie is not good faith. Commie is controlling the narrative. Label Nazis and dismiss. Support Israel and dismiss. Push the narrative. Call everyone fascist and dismiss. Claim other don't use good faith and dismiss.

It's been displayed well on this page. Assume at least IANAWW sees it. Normally not as blatant as this though.

How many times do I have to explain it has nothing to do with morality before you hear me? Maybe you could repeat it back to me so the next time you disingenuously claim my position to be something that it isn’t I can quote your own post at you?

I’m criticizing someone who called themselves a socialist for clearly not understanding what imperialism is or how it works.

And yes, WN, it is good faith to hold US congresspeoole accountable for US international relations. Are you being serious?

You have no "position". Push commie narrative is your only position. Oh my God some politician supported Israel!!! And they are evil because they did specific bad things so they can never be good unlike others who did forgivably bad things!!!!!