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Button meme close all the polls because corona, don't close the polls because it's rigging the election!

Could be a soft push for mcgrath, overall they've been pushing absentee vote from home pretty hard.

Or early voting on location.

06-23-2020 , 11:23 AM

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I don’t understand what’s so hard about voting by mail. When I vote by mail I have a unique identifier that allows me to track my ballot, ensure it was counted, and that it was registered to who I voted for. This is more assurance than I get when I voted in person.

I know it’s just another method of voter suppression, but it’s really absurd for a general person to oppose it.

06-23-2020 , 11:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox

who does it help or hurt that Louisville only has one polling station

it helps: rich people

it hurts: everyone else

there, that wasn't so hard

06-23-2020 , 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox

It isn't. There, that wasn't so hard.

Now answer me this -- who does it help or hurt that Louisville only has one polling station? Isn't this a primary election, so it's not like it hurts the democratic nazis more than the repulican nazis.

I'm filthy-level informed on the issue though so maybe there's more to it.

yes! two ignorants debating a situation! this is what the internet is all about!

my ignorance: urban areas vote dem. rural areas vote repub. loisville with only one polling place will hurt dem nazis more than repub nazis.

i think there is some aoc type guy running in kentucky right now, and they want him to lose

06-23-2020 , 11:29 AM

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actually i think it might be that dems and repubs both want this guy to lose.

like with aoc, her big weapon was turnout. so if you can keep people in cities from voting then you don't get people like aoc winning? idk

06-23-2020 , 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by chim17

This is more assurance than I get when I voted in person.

I don't think this is the assurance that matters to people that argue against it, they're looking for assurance that you're the person that actually cast the ballot, not your spouse, parent, child, pastor, community orgainzer or cat.

I'm not saying you're wrong or that there is something is wrong with voting by mail. A well-designed VBM system would be at least as resistant to fraud as a typical in-person system. I frankly believe, however, that any implemented VBM system will be every bit as half-assed as our regular voting system and will prove highly susceptible to manipulation.

06-23-2020 , 11:33 AM

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Why on earth would the evil republicans want him to lose? In a conservative leaning state they'd WANT AOC2 on the ballot. Who is he going to bring out that already isn't going to vote against Trump?

06-23-2020 , 11:57 AM

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I felt like aoc flew under the radar long enough to win without being squashed. Dunno only heard about her after the fact.

06-23-2020 , 11:59 AM

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I don't think aoc is organic. She pushes way too much neoliberalism to not just just be somebody put in to give democrats hope.

06-23-2020 , 12:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Birdman10687

it helps: rich people

it hurts: everyone else

there, that wasn't so hard

I was more interested in the impact on the different candidates, but now that you mention it, it also helps white people at the expense of POC.

Not entirely sure how the interests line up here, though, since the POC candidate is the more liberal candidate and it seems (again, just filthy-ing it) that whites have skewed more liberal than POC voters in demonazi primaries.

06-23-2020 , 12:20 PM

#27486

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox

It's a big problem in that it normalizes voter suppression in urban areas that vote blue. If they can get away with it in the primaries then they'll do it again in the general election. This is an expansion of the GOP's playbook of moving polling stations away from areas that are conveniently accessible to people without cars.

For this particular election it's likely to benefit McGrath since she was polling much better when mail-in voting started but is now getting pushback from approximately everybody. This in turn appears to benefit the GOP based on recent polling:

Quote:

As Booker and McGrath battle for the Democratic nomination, the Civiqs survey showed McConnell easily beating all of his challengers in potential general election races this fall. In a head-to-head matchup with McGrath, McConnell was ahead by 20 points, with 53 percent backing the incumbent and 33 percent of voters favoring her. Against Booker, his lead was cut down to 14 points—or 52 percent saying they'd vote for McConnell and 38 percent supporting the state legislator.

https://www.newsweek.com/what-polls-...e-race-1512518

06-23-2020 , 12:26 PM

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Lol

06-23-2020 , 12:28 PM

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I guess we'll see how voter turnout looks after the fact.

06-23-2020 , 12:29 PM

#27489

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox

Why on earth would the evil republicans want him to lose? In a conservative leaning state they'd WANT AOC2 on the ballot. Who is he going to bring out that already isn't going to vote against Trump?

He'd bring out people who can't be bothered trying to replace one Brett Kavanaugh supporter with another.

06-23-2020 , 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pwnsall

I felt like aoc flew under the radar long enough to win without being squashed. Dunno only heard about her after the fact.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

I don't think aoc is organic. She pushes way too much neoliberalism to not just just be somebody put in to give democrats hope.

I can't tell if these posts are serious or not

06-23-2020 , 12:33 PM

#27491

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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox

this is total gibberish

06-23-2020 , 12:34 PM

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I can't tell if these posts are serious or not

Well I'm definitely serious.

06-23-2020 , 12:38 PM

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I never heard of AoC until the day she won the primary. Maybe she was news in NY.

06-23-2020 , 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

this is total gibberish

Accomplishment unlocked!

06-23-2020 , 12:39 PM

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I never heard of AoC until the day she won the primary. Maybe she was news in NY.

I started hearing about her after she was splashed all over the news, going on Jimmy Kimmel, and named Time's Person of the Year.

06-23-2020 , 12:39 PM

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This is 100% the test run for November

06-23-2020 , 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokyo!!

This is 100% the test run for November

Yes, everything is all about stopping the Democrats. lol

06-23-2020 , 12:43 PM

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I can't really understand the narrative that a dem governor agreed to a voting policy to rig an election that is mostly about a dem senate race in favor of republicans (that based on poling looks like a lock anway)? Granted it was a compromise afaik.

At least birdmans makes sense even though I think it could be a bit overused to dismiss anything.

Oh and Dem mayor and city council

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06-23-2020 , 12:43 PM

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Well I'm definitely serious.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwnsall

I never heard of AoC until the day she won the primary. Maybe she was news in NY.

AOC absolutely had a ton of organic support. You don't beat a 10-term incumbent in a very safe seat without a bunch of support. And if she is a neoliberal, then is everyone else just tea-partiers? I guess the left really is dead in America.