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With students from Stoneman Douglas High school present, the Florida state House voted down a motion to take up a bill that would ban assault rifles, effectively killing the measure for this session.

The vote comes less than a week after 17 people were fatally shot at the South Florida high school. The gun used was reportedly an assault-style rifle - an AR-15.

The motion failed by a 36-71 vote.

this wasn't a vote on the bill. this was a vote on whether to discuss the bill to begin with.

abominable cowards.

02-20-2018 , 06:45 PM

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Money for nothing

02-20-2018 , 08:09 PM

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http://tucson.com/news/national/repu...cd898a65f.html

I guess the kids they can't get killed they're going to try to ****

02-20-2018 , 08:22 PM

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pwnsall

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Using these kids for political gain seems weird, like all those abortion photos or Colin Kaepernick.

02-20-2018 , 08:55 PM

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Looking over my new instapot instructions, not sure I have general purpose food.

02-20-2018 , 09:51 PM

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Looking over my new instapot instructions, not sure I have general purpose food.

My wife has made a ton of awesome meals with her InstantPot. But this one is unbelievable. It reminds me of a chocolate souffle from a high-end restaurant. Also super easy to make!

https://www.adventuresofanurse.com/2...ate-lava-cake/

02-21-2018 , 09:52 AM

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https://gizmodo.com/house-democrats-...x-o-1823158240

02-21-2018 , 10:39 AM

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Senate not really any better, either.

This relatively toothless bill has been proposed by Elizabeth Warren, but no action has been taken on it since (in September).

02-21-2018 , 10:41 AM

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Maybe we could develop some strategies for washing out the critters?

it looks like the BrandNewCongress movement is progressing along...

02-21-2018 , 10:56 AM

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just find some people they've sexually assaulted

02-21-2018 , 11:18 AM

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Maybe we could develop some strategies for washing out the critters?

it looks like the BrandNewCongress movement is progressing along...

This looks like a long term educational project if there ever was one.

You'd have to teach them about the two party system and other verboten topics imo.

Right now people are so polarized good luck ever getting them to vote third party. 40% think Trump is Hitler and another 40 think the dems are awful. You would need to carve people out of both camps. Education imo...

I think electing non-establishment people from within the current two party system is a more realistic and attainable goal at least in the short term.

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02-21-2018 , 11:22 AM

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I'm considering getting into politics, ehat are some good politics for beginners?

02-21-2018 , 11:34 AM

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suga, do you mean you want to get into political participation or political theory?

02-21-2018 , 11:50 AM

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the idea of BNC is to replenish the existing parties with People-oriented candidates, not to establish a third party

it's an offshoot of Bernie's "young people gathering in their living rooms" talking point

02-21-2018 , 11:51 AM

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I'm considering getting into politics, ehat are some good politics for beginners?

You came to the right place!

02-21-2018 , 11:56 AM

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Reading more about it. Have to be a little skeptical due to the association with the Sanders campaign but they are saying the right things.

I think it's a mistake to have a platform though if they are really trying to be 'post-paristan'.

A platform of simply "getting the special interests out by electing normal people" should be enough. Allow the candidates they support to actually be normal people.

*and finally if I found out they were funded by moveon.org or something I would not be shocked.

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02-21-2018 , 12:32 PM

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I think the only BNC platform point I don't agree with is the idea of granting a vote to tax-paying non-citizens.

I'd rather establish an easier, faster pathway to citizenship to accomplish roughly the same goal.

02-21-2018 , 12:33 PM

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Thoughts & Prayers UK

Today in Rihanna

02-21-2018 , 12:38 PM

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Yeah I've heard voting for noncitizens is being pushed by progs recently.

02-21-2018 , 12:42 PM

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Exactly the sort of high contentious issue that is a part of their platform that makes me think that not everything is on the up and up as far as their stated aims. It might as well be moveon.org if they aren't funded by them because is there any difference?

There are no issues that independent conservative types can get behind. So it can't be a bi (or post) partisan movement.

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02-21-2018 , 12:55 PM

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Pwnsall, previously we discussed the constitutionality of imposing a mental health certification requirement as a pre-condition of firearms licensing.

I just came across an opinion from the 11th federal circuit which makes it the latest of 6 circuits (and thus a majority, not counting D.C.) to hold that the "prior restraint" doctrine under the 1st amendment does not apply to the 2nd amendment.

The "prior restraint" doctrine basically provides that Congress cannot bar the practice of otherwise protected speech before-the-fact of its occurrence, ie through licensing.

02-21-2018 , 12:58 PM

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Right now people are so polarized good luck ever getting them to vote third party.

No (well, a bit yes, but mainly no), the problem is that the FPTP system combined with the huge budgets of the established parties makes voting third party a near-guaranteed waste of your vote.

If you want to fix politics in America, I think ditching FPTP for a more sensible voting system that will encourage far more third-party voting has to be close to the top of the list.

02-21-2018 , 12:59 PM

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I agree that the BNC appeal to bipartisanship is spurious.

Social conservatives are going to oppose about 70% of their platform, and economic conservatives are going to oppose the other 30%.

02-21-2018 , 01:03 PM

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and it's false that the issue is verboten/unknown

I learned about this in my public high school classes. It is part of the official "Government" curriculum.

I think most people's eyes glaze over when fundamental, far-reaching changes are posed towards them.

02-21-2018 , 01:04 PM

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I'm trying to figure out the difference between fptp vs winner take all. Winner take all is always how I knew it.

Are those the same ideas or something marginally different?

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