i'm not sure, but i think that was a different case vs a lone woman. i think this case is vs two men. but iirc and it is a different case, she is also facing a ridiculously severe punishment.

man if freedom and justice usa treats protesters like this, i wonder how they must treat them in cuba?

So protestor arrested in Tulsa for trespassing after she wouldn't leave the Trump rally. She had a ticket to the rally, but police refused her entrance for wearing an "I cant breathe shirt".

Weird to see people who attacked businesses for not letting them in without a mask now supporting not allowing someone in for a type of t-shirt (obviously, not actually weird -- expected).

Anyways, you have to imagine Tulsa is going to burn tonight since police are being used to hinder rights while allowing trump supporters to actually break rules (allowing them a pass for curfew).

Also, pretty ridiculous Trump specifically tweeted out that protestors would be mistreated by police.

land of the free! unless we don't like your t-shirt

and no trying to burn empty cop cars that are already destroyed. that is life in prison

yeah i'm not leaving my house, and trying to get all my friends to do the same.

i wouldn't be able to not say something to these idiots if i saw any of them out and around, and also im always a little leery because im a fairly large individual, and i've literally had an older police officer here say "**** son, i'd just shoot you first and ask questions later if there was a problem." as some kind of joke(?) when he met me.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0869-5

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7194554/

Both of those it looks like deal with those who are pre-symptomatic and not asymptomatic, and there have been conflicting reports about whether the latter group sheds virus.

WTF difference does that make to the logic for wearing masks???

Furthermore, I'm unaware of any "conflicting reports" about whether truly asymptomatic carriers shed virus. The only source of confusion has been the WHO putting out muddled statements without citing any data or explaining what they even mean. But given the practical difficulties in distinguishing between fully asymptomatic carriers and those with only very mild symptoms, the issue is pretty much moot regardless.

So exactly how does is this senile old ****er Biden, scared to leave his basement, who's best friend was Strom Thurmond btw, gonna win a grueling national election? I guess you just have your shock troops threaten to beat up all those evil white Trump voters crazy enough to think they still get to have a say in what happens in this country. Burn down the polling places etc. While the media assures everyone that up is down and wrong is right. Those tactics are sure working so far, y'all might be onto something.

What a great time to be alive.

Show me peer reviewed studies of anything that challenges my worldview

But I'll just mention non specific 'conflicting reports' without any reference in order to support my world view.

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We don’t actually have that answer yet’: WHO clarifies comments on asymptomatic spread of Covid-19

A top World Health Organization official clarified on Tuesday that scientists have not determined yet how frequently people with asymptomatic cases of Covid-19 pass the disease on to others, a day after suggesting that such spread is “very rare.”

The clarification comes after the WHO’s original comments incited strong pushback from outside public health experts, who suggested the agency had erred, or at least miscommunicated, when it said people who didn’t show symptoms were unlikely to spread the virus.
Maria Van Kerkhove, the WHO’s technical lead on the Covid-19 pandemic, made it very clear Tuesday that the actual rates of asymptomatic transmission aren’t yet known.

Did you think I was lying or something? I'm confused. Why not just ask me for evidence of conflicting reports and skip the douchiness?

This is not a conflicting report on asymptomatic carrier transmission. It's a 'the WHO doesn't know'. Conflicting reports would be someone stating that asymptomatic carries don't transmit the virus.

And yes, I didn't believe you and still don't believe you. As others have pointed out, this feels very much like you working from your worldview and finding evidence.

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Someone from the WHO came out with a statement saying that asymptomatic transmission was very rare. Then the WHO corrected that and said "we don't actually know".
That's conflicting reports. At least read the part I quoted.
Once again: Because I was aware of this, I asked Ianww for studies showing that asymptomatics can actually spread it. I'll need to go back and look at what he linked to, but the studies Soah posted deal with pre-symptomatics.
From a little more of that article:

At one of the WHO’s thrice-weekly press briefings Monday, Van Kerkhove noted that when health officials review cases that are initially reported to be asymptomatic, “we find out that many have really mild disease.” There are some infected people who are “truly asymptomatic,” she said, but countries that are doing detailed contact tracing are “not finding secondary transmission onward” from those cases. “It’s very rare,” she said.

Another article on the topic: WHO walks back comments on asymptomatic transmission of coronavirus

Literally only because the other choice is Donald Trump.

it's not just trump

biden can also beat:

bernie sanders
liz warren
butigieg
kamala harris
etc

LOL this rally. Low energy! Sad!



https://twitter.com/RexChapman/statu...83723875028992

https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...itive-covid-19

trump's rally could end up killing a lot of people and i'd have to believe killing his campaign. i mean his career has survived unbelievable thing after thing. i can't even list them all. it's too many to keep track! but surely, holding a campaign rally in a pandemic that everyone is saying is dangerous and idiotic, and then resulting in people dying... surely that would have to end his campaign

did they say a million people or something were trying to buy tickets?

lol kpop fans have been great

Missed these earlier. But if asymptomatic transmission is very rare, and the logic for mask wearing is to protect other people from the mask-wearer, then you can see how it's a great deal of importance whether asymptomatic spread actually happens.

Here is the WHO on asymptomatic transmission-- and it is important to note that I give the WHO the same level of credibility that I give any government body (and perhaps less)-- but if they are saying that asymptomatic transmission is "much less likely" then the douchebaggery surrounding mask wearing should decrease.
http://www.emro.who.int/health-topic...tic-cases.html

Global research on COVID-19 continues to be conducted, including how the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is transmitted. Current evidence suggests that most transmission occurs from symptomatic people through close contact with others. Accordingly, most recommendations by WHO on personal protective measures (such as use of masks and physical distancing) are based on controlling transmission from symptomatic patients, including patients with mild symptoms who are not easy to identify early on.

Available evidence from contact tracing reported by countries suggests that asymptomatically infected individuals are much less likely to transmit the virus than those who develop symptoms. A subset of studies and data shared by some countries on detailed cluster investigations and contact tracing activities have reported that asymptomatically-infected individuals are much less likely to transmit the virus than those who develop symptoms.

Look up the word "less"

It might surprise you

It should be obvious to anybody paying attention that sneezing is more dangerous than talking, here.

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/19...-protest-zone/

So now chop wants police service

Gjge