Oh good point, the media never lies.

If we can't trust the corporate media to paint an accurate picture of how poor and oppressed people feel, who can we trust?

Mets,
Do you think it's possible that looters can be up to no good while the protesters can be legitimately protesting?
Are you constantly trying to conflate the two groups?

There are other reason that I know its not "white supremacists doing all the looting". But even if I knew nothing else, the fact that it is a tale that the corporate media is spinning would be enough to make me seriously doubt it.

Birdman,
Do you agree that looters exist and are taking advantage of this situation to loot? Or do you think that is just a media narrative that is being created to smear legitimate protesters?

I don't understand why this is an issue for you Birdman.

I cannot wrap my head around someone who thinks this was dealt with appropriately.

There are a million things that could have been tried before this. He did none of them except stoke the flames. He never showed empathy, understanding for protest, or care for the people who are hurting.

How can you possibly be a good person if you support this action? I simply cannot reconcile it. This isn't like disagreement on tax code. I'm flabbergasted.

Did you watch the address and the side by side of how they dealt with the protestors? It's horrible and evil and if you support it you're a terrible person.

He literally spent the day condoning the military shoot our people. You can't see Tom Cotton's Tweet and agree with it if you have any sense of morality.

Sorry I'm rambling. I'm upset and frustrated.

"Sorry your uncle died to military on US soil Johnny, but after days of escalation from the President what else was he supposed to do? Some property was being damaged"

There are hundreds of thousands of people out there protesting across like 50 cities. I am sure there are some random white people somewhere taking advantage of the situation.

But the narrative that anything that is a threat to private property (looting, burning, property destruction) couldn't be part of 1000000% justifiable reaction to decades of polices oppression that has not only been allowed but cheered on my most of the country is an obvious tactic to undermine the movement.

Think this is a rare time where most versions of reality are true. Some protestors have gotten violent, obvious we have evidence of cops being violent, some protestors are looting, some white people are increasing racial tensions intentionally, some white people looting, etc.

Too many people doing things, it's all basically happening I'm sure. Doesn't really matter, though, the point of the protests remains.

Dude do you realize how much of a threat peaceful protests are to the status quo? Do you understand how easily they are ignored? How can it not be obvious why you would castigate any "non-peaceful" protests as "outside instigators", "white supremacists", "maga chuds", "opportunist"? The easiest way to stop a non-peaceful protest is to just turn it into a peaceful one.

I definitely think a good portion of the protests are "violent". I use violent in quotes because destroying property is not violent. That is just how the bourgeoisie label it because they love nothing more than their property. They aren't ACTUALLY violent. The only actually violent people in the streets right now are the cops.

But yes a good portion of them are looting, burning, etc. But saying that that is only caused by white people or whatever is just a way to make it seem like black people are justified in burning down targets or police stations. They are justified in doing that and they are doing it. So stop calling the protests peaceful (not you chim, I mean the people who are) when they ****ing aren't. They aren't ****ing peaceful and they shouldn't be peaceful.

Wait are they violent or are they peaceful?


If they're neither, what is in between?

thats exactly what i am saying

i think many of the protesters are legitimately protesting and a bunch of thugs are looting

I remember the climactic scene in V for Vendetta when V decided destroying Parliament would depreciate home values too much so he put down his knives and made peace with the chancellor.

Even if it's godless antifa commie bogeymen, there sure seem to be a lot. Why that is might be an indicator that the state is failing.

Well we now know someone who was peacefully protesting and got a rubber bullet to the face. Luckily caught the cheek bone and just missed the eye.

Police are out of control. **** the police, **** 12, ACAB.

Strangely I haven't heard anyone bring up Covid 19 which would be a reasonable reason. It would still likely be a rationalization but at least it makes sense.

Not enough tax cuts, probably

Can we get the mayor of LA to fire all the police? Seriously, send them all home, withdraw the national guard and everything will be just fine.

At least that’s what people on twitter are saying and when have they ever lead us astray?

You know Bird is right about this because Mitch is going off about outside agitators. They love the idea of taking power away from the victims.

The fight is won when the soldiers refuse to fire.

Perhaps they could have arrested accessory to murder officers before invoking the military.

The jails are too crowded to fit all of them