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05-29-2020 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
Go back and read what I said. It is right there in front of your face on the screen.
Then you're naive at best
05-29-2020 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk
i'm not mets, but i also don't see what looting accomplishes. more pissed off cops that appear to be pretty damn racist, have no moral compass, and anger management issues, will then need to deal with said looters. it's a vicious cycle

how do you fix it?

i mean, ****ing holding people accountable would be nice. the cop(cops? i honestly haven't watched the video or kept up much with the story to know how many ppl were directly involved) should be brought up on murder charges. and the system shouldn't be bullshit and somehow let the cops off. they should be sentenced to the fullest extent of the law. honestly, moreso considering they're the ones that were supposed to be protecting/enforcing it.

i'm not a fan of blanket statements, so a lot of these political discussions just piss me off and i don't partake anymore. like i think filthy said something to the effect of "his crime is he's a cop in the first place" is just wrong. there are shitty cops. they should be dealt with.

like, 99+% of people are good people imo
"i'm not mets but" you know you're in trouble when you have to make it clear that you are not mets


i grew up male, poor, and brown. i would guess basically every person who grew up like that in any city in usa would agree with me that cops are bad, all of them, or basically all of them.

just the fact that i can tell you didn't grow up poor and brown/black because you said it's wrong to say all cops are criminals, that should you how racist and abusive police are.

the hatred poor communities have for police is visceral and justified. they are abusive. they are murderers. objectively. it's just true! and they all stick up for each other, even the "good ones"

even if you're right. even if some cops are good. how is now the time to stick up for cops???? we've seen news story after news story, month after month, year after year of them killing black people. wtf bro, it's not like cops are in danger of losing too much power or being treated unfairly. after too many innocent cops keep going to jail, then you can stick up for cops.
05-29-2020 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk
I await the "EVEN BROWN PPL?!?!" followup to that 2nd amendment part...yes, I believe every citizen should train/arm themselves for self-defense. Especially people living in places that have statistically higher crime rates.
You should go read about the black panthers and COINTELPRO

the whole reason that California has some of the toughest gun laws is because black people tried to arm themselves in Oakland back in the 70s.
05-29-2020 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk
Then you're naive at best
Based on the last 10 posts you have made its hard to take this any way but a compliment.
05-29-2020 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
You should go read about the black panthers and COINTELPRO

the whole reason that California has some of the toughest gun laws is because black people tried to arm themselves in Oakland back in the 70s.
And? I just said I'm completely against those types of policies. The fact that the most crime-ridden places have the most restrictive firearm policies is something I'm firmly against...Chicago, Baltimore, Oakland, Detroit, etc...
05-29-2020 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk
And? I just said I'm completely against those types of policies. The fact that the most crime-ridden places have the most restrictive firearm policies is something I'm firmly against...Chicago, Baltimore, Oakland, Detroit, etc...
Good for you?
05-29-2020 , 02:05 PM
Hey guys--the dude who is super worried about the Target burning down thinks I'm naive!
05-29-2020 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

But let me ask you now



How is burning down target and autozone going to help the black community get justice
Prior to this, the murderer was not arrested, and now he is?
05-29-2020 , 02:06 PM
It's cool how you think that "being for 2nd amendment rights" gives you a pass to be racist. What kind of weird stuff is going on in your head?
05-29-2020 , 02:08 PM
Like what is going on when someone is super upset that a Target got burned down but then is like "clearly the solution is for people to carry assault rifles to start a war with the cops. That will stop the mayhem!"
05-29-2020 , 02:08 PM
Yeah, I'm done here, this is why you can't discuss politics. Just straight up calling me racist for...what? You've got some serious issues.
05-29-2020 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall



Asking how to fix things will always entail infringing on other "rights". I say take kids from parents at 3-4 years old for mandatory boarding school for a few years minimum. Shouldn't need anything else. Mostly it's just virtue signaling circle jerk will forget about once news stops saying it's important, like with the concentration camps.
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I'm glad you're posting here again. Now we just need Birdman and Amplify to come back


wtf lol!!!
05-29-2020 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I'm glad you're posting here again. Now we just need[s] Birdman[/s] and Amplify to come back
..one more to go
05-29-2020 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Prior to this, the murderer was not arrested, and now he is?
Not only that, but prior to this the prosecutor actually said there was evidence showing it wasn't criminal.

Now, I don't understand the criminal side very well, so no idea what things had to fall into place to make the arrest happen. However, if that same prosecutor was involved it's not too much of a leap to say the riots played a significant role in the arrest.
05-29-2020 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk
Yeah, I'm done here, this is why you can't discuss politics. Just straight up calling me racist for...what? You've got some serious issues.
I just told you man, I don't make the rules. Anyone who criticizes the riots is on the side of the cops. And I think it is pretty clear that is the racist side, no?
05-29-2020 , 02:11 PM
Criticizing the riots isn't too far off from "Well, if she wouldn't have been drunk in such a short dress, maybe she wouldn't have gotten raped!"

You know what prevents riots? Immediate arrest and prosecution of murderers. Not having a history of executing black men and forgiving the murderer.

It's just not a good look to say "but, their response.." when their response is due to an entire history of being murdered, intentionally oppressed, and harmed by the state.
05-29-2020 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin


wtf lol!!!
just gotta hope pwns doesn't start threatening to kill me like he did last time.
05-29-2020 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
The cops in Minnesota got fired and are under active investigation afaik.

Also Ferguson was a clean shooting and that cop got bullied into quitting for no reason.

Lots of conspiracies going around about how the riots started. Also some wheelchair woman got fire extinguishered in the face and generally assaulted for trying to stop looters with a knife. Everyone was victim blaming/both sides are bad rhetoric.
Video is hilarious.

Some msu study says shootings track with crime and race in a given area, but they are all small samples because not many police shootings happen and it's a very unlikely was to die. (I know this isn't a shooting)

Lots of race baiting going on.

Asking how to fix things will always entail infringing on other "rights". I say take kids from parents at 3-4 years old for mandatory boarding school for a few years minimum. Shouldn't need anything else. Mostly it's just virtue signaling circle jerk will forget about once news stops saying it's important, like with the concentration camps.

Looting targets is mostly irrelevant unless people get injured, though I don't get a hardon like ianaww and master.
Holy ****, filled a bingo card in a single post.

Anyone who was missing "race baiting" and "virtue signaling" come on down, you've won yourselves a prize.
05-29-2020 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Prior to this, the murderer was not arrested, and now he is?
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Originally Posted by chim17
Not only that, but prior to this the prosecutor actually said there was evidence showing it wasn't criminal.

Now, I don't understand the criminal side very well, so no idea what things had to fall into place to make the arrest happen. However, if that same prosecutor was involved it's not too much of a leap to say the riots played a significant role in the arrest.
I mean isn't the real accomplishment that they chased the cops out of town? Like that seems like the clearest material outcome of all of this.
05-29-2020 , 02:14 PM
Third degree murder and manslaughter charge.
05-29-2020 , 02:14 PM
There was a well armed, white supremacist group that terrorizes your community and you got them to leave. That seems great.
05-29-2020 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk
Yeah, this part is bullshit. This is where I can no longer actually have a reasonable discussion with someone.
i could be wrong about this, or what i vaguely remember reading bs. but i think i read that cops in usa became a thing to control slaves. that's why they were founded. then it grew from there.
05-29-2020 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
i could be wrong about this, or what i vaguely remember reading bs. but i think i read that cops in usa became a thing to control slaves. that's why they were founded. then it grew from there.
Yeah they caught runaway slaves.
05-29-2020 , 02:18 PM
It's hard to not watch the prosecutors statement and not think the riots played a significant role. He pivoted from "Evidence shows it isn't criminal" to "We just had to wait until we could appropriately make the case".

edit: Can anyone with a straight face say the charges would be as quick and exactly the same WITHOUT the riots?
05-29-2020 , 02:19 PM
You know it's bad news when you are pedaling the same racist **** as Tomi Lahren:


      
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