I kind of got side tracked, Dustin, but you asked me for a definition of fascism yesterday. I think this is a pretty good one:

“The reality of Fascism is violent attempt of decaying capitalism to defeat the proletarian revolution and forcibly arrest the growing contradictions of it whole development.”

This is the same argument you used to make when you'd break a rule in a ww game and anyone would try to moderate you

This is the common sense and decency reason most people adhere to without having to bring up the ark of the covenant or whatever the ****.

But mets has also made it clear (see above) that he views his religion as entirely inseparable from the nation of Israel and the jewish identity as a whole when it comes to policy and politics. For others in the jewish community, this isn't true. This is why we're at a dead end in the Bibi discussion.

Religion is legit the worst all around.

Agreed

Here you go, LB. How many of these are hoaxes?

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/4...trump-1734340/

Given the events in New Zealand I'll pass.

Speaking of New Zealand, I'm so glad that after the events were well known last night, Trump decided to tweet a link to the Breitbart homepage.

Then this morning, he finally tweeted out sympathies (no condemnation of hatred and racism). Then it was right back to tweeting about Jews leaving the Democratic party, the Mueller investigation and "crooked Hillary".

I wish I was surprised by how big a piece of **** this guy is, but I'm not anymore. There is no bottom.

What? No false flag hot takes?

Color me shocked.

Other than the extremely high body count (which will always give me some pause) there doesn't seem to be any reason to think that. But if that changes I will let you know.

Maybe we can pretend you did that and I called you an ignorant edgelord and just skip it in the future, deal?

I thought we had entered into a new period where you and I weren't going to characterize each other and have more fruitful discussions?

Does that bother you more than Pelosi and all the Democrat doing their fake sympathy thing after leading an anti-Muslim smear campaign the last few weeks?

Lol anti Muslim smear campaign

Your anti Israel hate makes you believe dumb things

Link to "anti-Muslim smear campaign"?

I asked you about 10 times to explain why what Ilhan Omar tweeted was anti-Semitic and you couldn’t explain it. So your opinion on this topic is basically worthless.

It is pretty clear that long ago you stopped being able to understand the difference between anti-semitisim and criticism of Israel. But I’m not even sure your stanning for Israel actually has to do with anti-Semitism. You seem to only care about anti-Semitism (Or racism at all really) when it suits you (as compared to times like when Trump calls Nazis fine people or when Netanyahu is backing neo-Nazis in Ukraine). I think the much likelier explanation is that you are just a racist that hates brown people.

Are you trolling here or do you actually not know what I am talking about?

my answer is very idealistic but i basically am of the opinion that my perfect synagogue would be very active in social and political reform, sharing my views. if people don't like it, they can join another one or start their own that shares their views better. personally, i'm not particularly inclined to belong to a place with a bunch of people and rabbis who neuter their beliefs in the interest of it being a 'politics free zone'.

i know this is very impractical for many and you probably will think this idea is ludicrous but i put things like ^ way higher than the quality of its religious school, how pretty the torah covers/sanctuary are, or how good the rabbi is.

So you are looking for a synogauge more about your social views than Judaism itself

There should be a reform temple that meets those needs.

But not a conservative synogauge.

And it supports what i said. Most people that want to join a conservative synogauge and care about traditional jewush values support Israel and people that are Jewish in the secular sense only may not support Israel.

So you are looking for a synogauge more about your social views than Judaism itself

There should be a reform temple that meets those needs.

But not a conservative synogauge.

And it supports what i said. Most people that want to join a conservative synogauge and care about traditional jewush values support Israel and people that are Jewish in the secular sense only may not support Israel.

Isn't enough to criticize people for things they do post and not for things they don't post as well?

That isn't what he said.

How exactly does what bsball posted "support" what you said? Bsball is describing his ideal synagogue to you. Secular jews don't go to synagogue. (We've been to synagogue exactly zero times in 15 years. I have *only* ever been to temple to support other jews in their events, fundraisers etc). And bsball hasn't said that he doesn't support Israel- he has criticized their policies.

You seem to have a problem, mets. To you, jews are broken up into two parts- practicing jews who go to conservative/orthodox synagogues, OR secular jews (appaently this includes reform jews lol wtf) who don't support Israel. Sometimes you throw in "maybe"s to disguise the very much black-and-whiteness of your views.

You've essentially said in no uncertain terms that jews who criticize you religion ldo don't support Israel, and you've basically framed all of us who aren't practicing the religion up to *your standards* as bad jews without actually using that phrase.

Maybe consider that the younger generation is sick and tired of your old, tired, backwards ways telling us we're being bad jews. I think Bibi is a bad jew fwiw, and the things he's said recently are really bad for all of us.

What you posted actually supports what basball said. That there's a split down the middle between millenials and boomers. If you can't separate judaism from Israel you're part of the problem, because a huge part of the community is not practicing judaism atm.

And I think you know its offensive that you keep implying that there's something *wrong* with us as members of the jewish community if we're not actively practicing judaism, that we're "hurting", implying we're some kind of anti-Israel uncle toms. I'm pretty over it.

And if you say one more time in here that someone in this community "hates jews" I swear to ****ing god.

You're a nightmare too. Don't think you weren't noticed in the scroll.