the dude that is complaining about "circumstantial" evidence is wondering how someone is an attorney..

there are witness credibility issues, too, but it's hard to resolve those against apparently consistent facts

Hmmm

if only we could get some finger print evidence or some DNA..

Shouldn't you worry about finding a crime first?

considering the wealth of analytic material written by careers jurists on the term, I'm not about to engage him in a semantics discussion here

I suppose he is waiting for an email:

You know he has been working with the FBI for the last couple of years?

agreed. its just amusing that the term is used incorrectly by 99% of the population, but also to try and dismiss someone's skill as an attorney.. lol

like obstruction of justice (repeated attempts to interfere in the investigation against him) or treason (helping the state that had just cyber-attacked our election)?

I say "draw your own conclusions" because I've just about learned to stop trying to persuade you of anything. One day I'll learn to stop expecting you to engage in any level with what I'm saying.

as an informant

ergo, his information cannot be relied upon (because lol FBI)

Witness: "Don Corleone would routinely threaten to harm people or their families for refusing to obey his orders"

Defense Attorney: "Haven't you secretly been spying on Don Corleone's operation for the past three years, on behalf of the police?"

Witness: "Uh, yeah, that's how I know that he's been threatening people"

Defense Attorney: "I rest my case"

Yeah if my long post in response wasn't enough I don't know what you mean by engagement.

So yeah. There isn't too much evidence about how much involvement Trump had in whatever negotiations were taking place. But there is no evidence that Putin was involved. But I suppose your theory is that they were communicating. Maybe. Idk.

Your points 3-5 are all pretty questionable. 3 means nothing. For 4 what are the connections and what shenanigans?

I've read about Felix Slater. It's a pretty dubious theory to think he had some involvement. If he did, then given that he is now working with the FBI as an informant then we should assume Mueller knows everything.

I wonder how much of your conviction of Trump's guilt stems from what you perceive as actual foreign policy related benefits that Trump has given to Russia either through actions in Syria or China trade war like you said or whatever?

Your long post actually having something to do with what I was saying.

Brexit deal voted down by a historic majority, no confidence motion tabled...**** finally starting to happen over here in Brexland

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Also not aware of any evidence Trump and Putin conspired with each other.

Am aware Trump has business deals in Russia. A little conflict of interest.

Still have very little faith in the investigation when it comes to the DNC hack.

Perhaps Trump will go down for one reason or another, but the Mueller investigation and what it is revealing seems to just be a distraction. It is nowhere near as important as Trumps domestic policies, as far as I know

The entire process makes me lose faith. It is disappointing

It's good brexit deal was voted down.

It seemed very unpopular.

However, Theresa May seems too weak and/or conflicted to negotiate with the EU.

Although it must be a hard job. Britain must rely heavily on the EU trade deals.

How interesting.

I've heard about Trump and his dealings with mafia. This sounds like an extension of that.

Maybe someone will write a book about what really was going on behind the scenes one day.

I bet that book will sell a lot.

Donald Trump's personal attorney is now effectively conceding that the campaign itself conspired with the Russians but that Trump himself wasn't involved.

The next scheduled stop on this train is Yes He Knew But So What Who Cares It's Too Late Now.

So the theory is that the Russians needed the polling data in order to better target their propaganda? Because only the russians know how to run an effective campaign?

Nobody cares what Giuliani says.

This whole thing is just a bunch of corrupt politicians and media outlets attempting to convince us that Trump is corrupt.

It’s not that trump isn’t corrupt. It’s that everyone is corrupt. What do we care that Trump is in the pocket of Russian oligarchs when everyone in Congress is already bought and paid for?

Joke president accused of being a joke by joke system

We have ****ty healthcare in this country because when an actual good step toward affordable universal healthcare was on the table it was shot down by a democrat controlled congress because they were getting too much money from pharmaceutical companies to care about sick people not being able to afford medicine.

And those same dumbasses now want us to take them seriously when they pretend like the world is ending because trump took some money from people in Russia?

NBC wants us to care about trump being in cahoots with Russia when they cheered on the 10 trillion dollar war in Iraq while being owned by a Defense contractor.

hmmmm