Unsurprising, but appalling nonetheless. Short of having someone find boxes labelled “Jamal Khashoggi’s left arm” and such, Trump was always going to find a way to wiggle out of laying blame.

i mean you can say that all you want.
but i dont think obama would react the same way at all. a tortured and murdered us resident would cause some pull back under any non-corrupt administration regardless of the world oil-industrial complex.

yeah, that "same as obama and bush" line is total trash, stopped reading right there

I remember having this conversation where you got really annoyed with people calling back to your "no differences between the parties" line every time there are really obvious differences. Maybe consider that you bring it on yourself when you say things like that.

obama and bush gave the saudis arms, support, and literally held hands with them. meanwhile the saudis were doing things a lot worse than killing a journalist

jfc

this isn't whataboutism. im saying it's just business as usual. trump isn't doing anything exceptional compared to other usa presidents and their relations with saudi arabia

trump looks the other way while saudi arabia bombs yemen to ****. but now that saudi arabia has killed a journalist you are outraged?

Damn Poker players have a tell!

I find it helps to just assume filthy is joking.

That's probably for the best, yes.

explain to me how trump is behaving differently towards saudi arabia than bush and obama? i mean, i guess he is being less clandestine about it. but that's the only difference i can see.

I'm inclined to somewhat agree with filthy

Another president would have acknowledged the obvious and condemned SA. Probably cancelled some arms agreements or put some sanctions on. Demand that the prince step away from day to day leadership. But ultimately they are viewed by our government as strategic allies and will probably remain so.

A president doing this would shock me.

Evaluations are relative.

And doesn't he get free room service?

THIS IS AN ELABORATE TARP TO GET FILTHY TO ACTUALLY READ SOMETHING FROM TIME MAGAZINE THOUGH IN THIS CASE IT'S AN OPINION PIECE ON THANKSGIVING THAT CONTAINS MANY THINGS WHICH ARE 100% FILTHY-APPROVED

And yeah, we really could ditch the old narrative and just give thanks for the stuff we have in common and good food.

with obama or hillary there wouldn't be a make believe arms deal and a hundred thousand imaginary jobs to wave our hands about and protect. the 500 billion figure or whatever is critical to trumps grift. there have been roughly 14.5 billion dollars in actual deals and almost all of that was negotiated by obama

also there is a higher likelihood that saudi arabia doesnt even try it to begin with. Trump basically has shown his admin dgaf. also no one else would be so indebted to the Saudi's that they would think they could do it so blatantly. there is a lot of history of the saudi's bailing out trump and kushner dating to as recently as this year when they helped him with that terrible investment he made in 666 5th avenue.

I don't think you actually believe this. I hope you don't.

At least you admit this, thank you

I also think trump is making a deal that Saudi Arabia will endorse his israel Palestinian plan that is supposed to be released in the coming months

I assume you think the Saudi govt was involved?


It is amazing that we gave them no blame

Amazon's Jeff Bezos To Spend Nearly $100 Million To Address Homelessness

Waiting to hear filthy tell us how this is yet another sign that Jeff Bezos is evil.

"100 million? Guy is worth 100 times that. Obviously this is just him putting on a good public face so more poor people will buy more things from him."

i'll keep 99 billion, 900 million for myself. i'll spend 100 million on homelessness. i can afford it since i put all the mom and pop stores out of business and i don't pay my workers enough to survive

Doesn't quite offset the $47 million per year Seattle would have collected from their homelessness tax on large companies that Amazon killed.

decreasing the deterrence against homelessness while driving up housing prices


this guy is really burning it at both ends

They are more like a red herring in the 9/11 narrative.

lotta red herrings in that narrative, tho