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11-19-2018 , 10:14 PM

#14301

eyebooger

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BUT HER EMAILS

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/s...63734260572160

11-19-2018 , 10:39 PM

#14302

metsandfinsfan

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are you advising ivanka to bleachbit and destroy the computers and emails with a hammer?

11-19-2018 , 10:56 PM

#14303

master3004

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Yawwwwn

11-19-2018 , 11:38 PM

#14304

iamnotawerewolf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

are you advising ivanka to bleachbit and destroy the computers and emails with a hammer?

and a sickle

11-19-2018 , 11:41 PM

#14305

metsandfinsfan

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the article doesnt say theyre classified

but im definitely looking forward to the house investigations, the investigations into trump even after Mueller clears him, it's going to be fun times fo sho

11-20-2018 , 04:12 AM

#14306

Myrologue

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I wonder why, if Assange raped the two women, they approached the police merely to persuade Assange to get tested for STDs.

The whole thing seems quite strange. On the wiki page there's no mention of there being any evidence one way or another. And if Assange did rape them, then what was his reaction when the women tried to have him tested? Why would he give them some kind of incentive to go to the authorities?

Wouldn't he want to keep it private?

Hm.

Yeah, if there's a reason to take the allegation seriously, then I am certainly missing it.

At least in the Kavanaugh case the woman was willing to brave a very volatile spotlight to tell her story, so even though there wasn't any proof, I saw a need for the authorities to investigate the matter.

11-20-2018 , 04:16 AM

#14307

Myrologue

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Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

Free houses for all sounds very socialist

Like Bill Clinton?

I hope not.

Last edited by Myrologue; 11-20-2018 at 04:22 AM.

11-20-2018 , 04:18 AM

#14308

Myrologue

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tappokone

"It was a long time ago. Maybe she's mistaken."
"The charges were dropped."
"The Dems are exploiting this for partisan gain."
"The US wants him extradited."

Well it's more polite to beat around the bush.

11-20-2018 , 04:20 AM

#14309

Myrologue

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

per this BBC timeline, that's not what happened:

[Assange does not surrender himself]

If I were in his shoes, as far as my imagination takes me,

I probably wouldn't have surrendered myself no matter what I'd done or not done, or what I'd promised.

Just seems -ev no matter how you slice it.

11-20-2018 , 08:19 AM

#14310

bsball8806

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

is Oprah progressive?

From what I've read about her, I think it's fair to say that she hasn't really said or done much to even signal her in one direction or another. She's pretty pro traditional liberal virtue signaling issues (which makes a lot of sense given her line of work) that pretty much every Democrat these days espouses; whether she's actually progressive or not is very much left to be seen.

It's entirely possible she does a reverse Trump and comes out of the closet supporting things like UBI, single payer, or even some of the more "controversial" issues that BM and filthy believe in but right now I have no reason to think she might believe these other than incidental chance.

11-20-2018 , 09:54 AM

#14311

filthyvermin

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she supported the **** out of obama. that is some pretty good evidence she is not progressive

11-20-2018 , 10:02 AM

#14312

biggerboat

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Free books under everyone's chair.

11-20-2018 , 10:12 AM

#14313

Booker Wolfbox

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Quote:

Originally Posted by filthyvermin

she supported the **** out of obama. that is some pretty good evidence she is not progressive

Clearly not filthy progressive but still possibly progressive by mainstream standards?

11-20-2018 , 10:55 AM

#14314

Luckbox Inc

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox

Clearly not filthy progressive but still possibly progressive by mainstream standards?

Mainstream progressive being more or less an oxymoron.

11-20-2018 , 11:21 AM

#14315

iamnotawerewolf

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I doubt Oprah would want to be POTUS, but she probably wouldn't mind taking a year to stump for Marianne Williamson.

11-20-2018 , 11:29 AM

#14316

eyebooger

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Should I know who that is?

11-20-2018 , 11:32 AM

#14317

iamnotawerewolf

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I'm glad I do

11-20-2018 , 11:34 AM

#14318

iamnotawerewolf

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filthy may have had the chance to vote for her before

11-20-2018 , 11:48 AM

#14319

kokiri

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Myrologue

I'm not sure living in the Ecuadorian embassy rates as very +EV.

11-20-2018 , 11:53 AM

#14320

iamnotawerewolf

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Quote:

Citizens should be looked to for what they can give of their own nobility, virtue, creative thinking, passion, and natural talent for community building and relating to others.

Neither the left nor the right recognize this fact in any significant way. The right tends to posit that the market fuels social good. The left tends to posit that the government fuels social good. At bottom, democracy claims that citizens drive social good, but there is currently no container for a political force-field that stakes claim to the unbelievable resources now virtually untapped in every man, woman, and child in our society.

Quote:

We now recognize what has been substantiated scientifically everywhere from Harvard to Duke to Stanford — that the power of the mental and spiritual consciousness of the patient is as significant in healing as physical factors are. If we apply that same paradigm to politics, we see that the mind and the spiritual consciousness of the citizen are every bit as important as anything that goes on in the government. We need to recognize that part our political problem is that we do not participate effectively, that we suffer from a kind of mental slumber.

Quote:

London: Why do you think the media is so resistant to dealing with new ideas?

Williamson: Look who owns the media — they are beholden to the system.

London: The statistics on the concentration of media ownership paint a rather grim picture, you're right. But as a journalist I must say that I don't know anybody in my profession who feels that he answers to anything but his own conscience.

Williamson: But there are many ways to be co-opted. The fact that a journalist may not be thinking consciously that he is avoiding a subject doesn't mean anything. As I say in my book, pleasure can be used to enslave a people just as effectively as pain.

London: Yes, that was the moral of Huxley's great book Brave New World.

Williamson: Exactly. Alexis de Tocqueville also mentioned the danger of that.

London: So it's a kind of self-censorship?

Williamson: Yes. We're feeling too good! On the whole, though, I think the media has become incredibly corrupt.

Quote:

I believe that the truth with a capital T is at the center of all the great religious teachings.

I tell my mother I went to God in spite of my religious education.

all of this.

11-20-2018 , 12:06 PM

#14321

Luckbox Inc

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

all of this.

Talking about media ownership will get you smeared as an anti-Semite really quick. I think it disqualifies her.

11-20-2018 , 12:22 PM

#14322

iamnotawerewolf

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fortunately she was born/raised Jewish

11-20-2018 , 02:16 PM

#14323

eyebooger

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Even for Trump, this is incredible.

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/stat...37342656495619

11-20-2018 , 02:21 PM

#14324

Slighted

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the kingdom bailing BOTH trump out of bankruptcies and Kushner out of impending bankruptcy far >>>>>> importance to trump than any murdered brown person..

regardless of what the world says, or what the foremost intelligence agencies on the planet says, "we may never know what happened.."

11-20-2018 , 02:26 PM

#14325

filthyvermin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eyebooger

Even for Trump, this is incredible.

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/stat...37342656495619

same as obama and bush. maybe clinton and reagan? idk how far back the usa and saudis have been in a despicable partnership

osama bin laden hated the partnership btw. i think that was the main reason behind 9/11

for years chomsky said the usa had to actively oppose democracy in saudi arabia because if saudi arabia was democratic they'd elect osama bin laden

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